tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post2924254921448461615..comments2024-03-24T05:21:33.293-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: Why the BC basketball job still mattersATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger29125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-36513068909539392242014-01-11T10:25:35.308-05:002014-01-11T10:25:35.308-05:00Braves
I hope u are too, but you probably aren...Braves<br /><br />I hope u are too, but you probably aren't.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-39164903724063464322014-01-10T23:33:33.180-05:002014-01-10T23:33:33.180-05:00I think it makes all the financial sense in the wo...I think it makes all the financial sense in the world for Harvard to keep Amaker and develop a powerhouse basketball program. Gives Harvard more exposure and something to hang their hat on outside of academics. It looks like Harvard and UConn will battle it out for northeast domination for years to come.<br /><br />As for BC, I would like to believe that Bates would love to shell out whatever it takes to land a big time coach. However, I don't think BC will give him that much financial flexibility. Based on historical precedent, BC will offer something in the lower tier of the ACC, which will basically limit them to hiring a coach from a mid-major/lower tier conference who will use BC as a stepping stone. I hope I'm wrong.Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-73155415494826009762014-01-10T17:34:59.742-05:002014-01-10T17:34:59.742-05:00Braves
Been out all day. The Ivys have lots of m...Braves<br /><br />Been out all day. The Ivys have lots of money but don't spend it on coaches. Fran Dunph's situation @ Penn was as least as good as Amaker's but he still went to Temple.<br /> I'm interested in how u think this will play out?Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-72115796550627669912014-01-10T09:05:45.449-05:002014-01-10T09:05:45.449-05:00Harvard CAN pay lots of $$$, but WILL they? BC al...Harvard CAN pay lots of $$$, but WILL they? BC also CAN pay, but WILL they?<br /><br />All depends on how the administrations views the ROI. It is not done a whim, but only after a careful discussion of facts and high probabilities. They don't care about opinions on sports blogs.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-70250150362292062272014-01-09T23:15:22.885-05:002014-01-09T23:15:22.885-05:00I'm sure Harvard can pay Amaker infinitely mor...I'm sure Harvard can pay Amaker infinitely more than BC could though with its huge endowment. Plus BC has a history of being pretty stingy when it comes to paying head coaches and staff. Unless Bates has some unique ability to open the purse strings, I can't see BC paying big money for a big coach. Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-13986535090446193942014-01-09T19:43:57.760-05:002014-01-09T19:43:57.760-05:00 Bravesbill
Where we started this whole thing. ... Bravesbill<br /><br /><br />Where we started this whole thing. Money,money,money.<br /><br />Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-14162314037793339992014-01-09T17:04:01.656-05:002014-01-09T17:04:01.656-05:00At this point Hoib, why on earth would Amaker want...At this point Hoib, why on earth would Amaker want to go to BC over Harvard? Harvard has owned BC the last 8 or so years. Harvard has a much better program and Harvard is pretty much guaranteed a tournament berth every year because of the conference in which it plays. Harvard and Amaker are close to hitting the Gonzaga and Few apex.Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-26359369600649578262014-01-09T16:42:53.931-05:002014-01-09T16:42:53.931-05:00How about Tommy Amaker. He might be up for getting...How about Tommy Amaker. He might be up for getting back to the ACC. His wife teaches ar Harvard so not having to move could be a plus for us.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-91351920840322632102014-01-09T12:43:25.321-05:002014-01-09T12:43:25.321-05:00Mo Cassara for the job. Great young coach who got...Mo Cassara for the job. Great young coach who got screwed at Hofstra. Asst under Skinner. BC Grad School - great New England/New york Recruiter. Coached Craig Smith and Jarret Jack at Worcester Academy.Smittyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07013137317291064919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-40544896947243270432014-01-09T12:24:36.494-05:002014-01-09T12:24:36.494-05:00I agree with Aloha, grab a Duke assistant. Steve ...I agree with Aloha, grab a Duke assistant. Steve Woj would bring some intensity that we haven't had in a long time. Kyle DeFeohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08180826625695567439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-73633755990114529282014-01-08T19:55:36.050-05:002014-01-08T19:55:36.050-05:00Take a look at Harvard across the river. They are ...Take a look at Harvard across the river. They are getting better recruits in than BC. we should learn from what they did and go after someone with ACC roots. There are a bunch of old Duke guys coaching out there that would probably love a shot at an ACC job. Chris Collins went to Northwestern. I am not sure that is a better job than BC. I would look for coaches with ACC roots and name recognition that can draw recruits that want to play in the conference.AlohaBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13684072046670147354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-14955805768425016912014-01-08T19:54:19.387-05:002014-01-08T19:54:19.387-05:00Take a look at Harvard across the river. They are ...Take a look at Harvard across the river. They are getting better recruits in than BC. we should learn from what they did and go after someone with ACC roots. There are a bunch of old Duke guys coaching out there that would probably love a shot at an ACC job. Chris Collins went to Northwestern. I am not sure that is a better job than BC. I would look for coaches with ACC roots and name recognition that can draw recruits that want to play in the conference.AlohaBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13684072046670147354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-38615192998465753872014-01-08T19:15:22.306-05:002014-01-08T19:15:22.306-05:00Good gracious M34.5. Stop with the meaningless st...Good gracious M34.5. Stop with the meaningless statistic to try to prove your stupidity. Stay on point,f you can. "we" the posters are discussing a point not trying to try to impress people that you have a working brain.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-45941204830327154592014-01-08T15:56:35.255-05:002014-01-08T15:56:35.255-05:00Joseph who is "we"?'as in "I th...Joseph who is "we"?'as in <i>"I think that <b>we</b> were looking at elite academic institutions. "</i><br /><br /><br />Michigan is ranked higher than BC in USNWR (28 vs 31), and BC is more closely ranked to Wisconsin (41), PSU (37) and OSU (52) than it is to very elite Duke (7) and Stanford (5)mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-34654067535778595592014-01-08T15:31:12.656-05:002014-01-08T15:31:12.656-05:00I think that we were looking at elite academic ins...I think that we were looking at elite academic institutions. Many in the B-10 are very highly rated but not on a par with Stamford, ND and Duke (and BC)<br /><br />I am not sure but I think that hockey makes money and always has. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-13694663998658585782014-01-08T13:32:23.888-05:002014-01-08T13:32:23.888-05:00Hoib, the Big Ten has hockey
Minnesota is #1 in ...Hoib, the Big Ten has hockey <br /><br />Minnesota is #1 in hockey presently; Michigan is #8, and Wisc is #14. PSU, OSU and MSU also have hockey teams.<br /><br />mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-27252030180868565122014-01-08T13:14:34.046-05:002014-01-08T13:14:34.046-05:00Wondering if running the best hockey program in th...Wondering if running the best hockey program in the country detracts from our hoops efforts. I,m not a hockey guy, I know I've really missed the boat. So to those of u who follow both what do u think?<br /> On this blog Duke,Stanford and so on are constantly mentioned for succeeding at what we are trying to do, but they don't have hockey. The only place I can think of that try's to make a go of all 3 is that evil empire in south bend.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-23159182580898722432014-01-08T08:42:28.853-05:002014-01-08T08:42:28.853-05:00This is on point and very timely, considering the ...This is on point and very timely, considering the discussion here.<br /><br />http://www.slate.com/articles/sports/inside_higher_ed/2014/01/temple_university_athletics_controversy_football_valued_over_other_sports.htmlJosephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-9399882090914921402014-01-07T20:15:21.177-05:002014-01-07T20:15:21.177-05:00m34 is a master of the obnoxious. If you have a p...m34 is a master of the obnoxious. If you have a problem with an opinion, then state it, if you are capable. To you it maybe be obvious. To many others is is as well. Most of your posts are obvious to those that love the jaded negative simplistic BS of an professional naysayer.<br /><br />Says, the negative one, "Aside from the likes of Duke, CUSE, schools like Nova, Pitt, NCSU reportedly pay their hoops coach over $2,000,000. Can and will BC pay those numbers? I tend to doubt it. Therefore, "no go" on a big name coach". my point, which you say is obvious, is that if the university decides that the ROI is worth it, then IT WILL HAPPEN, not what you say "no go". You are probably too young to have ever benefited by the rigorous education at the Heights called the Ratio Studiorum. At least you you sure never understood it.<br />Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-3646436442207717672014-01-07T19:14:55.646-05:002014-01-07T19:14:55.646-05:00To add to mod34b's point, Clemson won its BCS ...To add to mod34b's point, Clemson won its BCS game, too. The ACC wasn't great in the lesser bowl games (cough) but won both its BCS games. Maybe Heather should pay a little more attention.bceagle91https://www.blogger.com/profile/18446254913561224783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-23095766059289356462014-01-07T16:07:18.430-05:002014-01-07T16:07:18.430-05:00Joseph, you have a gift for the obvious.
"If...Joseph, you have a gift for the obvious.<br /><br /><i>"If the "university" determines that a first class athletic department will be of overall value, it can be done. It won't happen because some rabid Eagles sports nuts want it to happen."</i>mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-26624872116186641672014-01-07T15:51:39.628-05:002014-01-07T15:51:39.628-05:00If the "university" determines that a fi...If the "university" determines that a first class athletic department will be of overall value, it can be done. It won't happen because some rabid Eagles sports nuts want it to happen. It has nothing to do with "cheap". It would be strictly a business decision about ROI. Duke, ND and Stanford are all top notch academic institutions that have decided that the ROI of highly competitive athletics is worth it. If that evaluation is not positive on the Heights then we will not get to the top ten in any sport on a regular basis. Occasionally, yes. We'll be a solid training ground for ambitious coaches and will be able to recruit the kids who buy into what BC is without needing the big deal prestige. <br /><br />Personally I think that the ROI is there. I hope that the President and Trustees come to the same conclusion. I believe it can add great benefit to most every facet of the university. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-73871760361622747842014-01-07T15:07:08.166-05:002014-01-07T15:07:08.166-05:00Ned - good post.
I agree with you on the anti-AC...Ned - good post.<br /><br />I agree with you on the anti-ACC bias. FSU has had some of the best recruiting classes in all of the NCAA. FSU athletes can go toe-to-toe with the SEC. I am always repulsed listening to Herbie and Mushberger and Fowler. <br /><br />It is painful to listen to the stupid story line about "atheticism"<br /><br />And to add the the ESPN bs, consider this from the nitwit Heather Dinich:<br /><br /><i>"One thing it wasn’t: all about conference supremacy. While so much has been made about the ACC versus the SEC, Monday night’s moment of celebrating a 34-31 win over Auburn was for Florida State, and only Florida State."</i><br /><br />Sorry, ESPN, FSU's victory does reflect favorably on the ACC. <br /><br />Good to hear Jameis giving BC the nod. Although Jameis needs some help with his public speaking, he seems like a good kid (assuming those certain allegations are all wrong) with a real love of the game.<br /><br />And Jimbo is a class act. Nice to hear him give kudos to the ACC in his victory comments.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-88313837306346881382014-01-07T14:48:21.092-05:002014-01-07T14:48:21.092-05:00A quick comment about Jags. He still is missed not...A quick comment about Jags. He still is missed not for his success or failure but because of the image that he projected with something like 5 cute kids. That was his primary responsibility and he was faithful as a father. Donohue is a very fine person character wise. He just doesn't have the big time skills. BC has won in the past on the hardwood and will do so again. Skinner was a very good coach but it was time to move on. The onus is on Brad Bates. The BC community needs to think big time. I believe that supporters of BC are too provincial. This particular blog shows support from all over the country. The marketing effort is lousy. When BC went to USC, Big Jack Krack was there with the Rettig family. How about stopping the crying and bleeping over what might have been? The words of Bobby Kennedy come to mind. Some men see things as they are and wonder why. Others see the same thing and say why not. Chris O'Donnell is a wonderful ambassador in all of the ads. More than BJK need to get mad and remember "Heartbreak Ridge" and charge up that hill and plant that flag on the top of the Heights. Corny but true.JBQhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09344181644293746758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-31840355535151215232014-01-07T13:04:26.266-05:002014-01-07T13:04:26.266-05:00Mod
I'm w/ u all the way on this.
It's al...Mod<br /><br />I'm w/ u all the way on this.<br />It's always about the money. Atl sights a string of good hoop coaches we've had. Why did they leave? For the dough. If u want to play w/ the big boys u have to pay like the big boys<br /><br /> This applies not just to who you hire initially, but paying for overachievent. In big money college sports u give the coach a new contract when he overachieves and u have to eat the contract when he flops. It's what our competitors do so we must also.<br /><br />I think that was the story w/ Jags, who was a hot property at the time. Gene wouldn't or couldn't pay up instead resorted to a publicity stunt that backfired horrendously.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.com