tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post2976632701532273585..comments2024-03-14T05:51:10.794-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: ICYMI: Vaughn Williams' letterATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger55125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-31754604305644157972017-07-18T17:19:11.753-04:002017-07-18T17:19:11.753-04:006 year old data. Great job.
Black colleges. Fl...6 year old data. Great job. <br /><br />Black colleges. Flip it and say white colleges, Asian colleges or soupbog the day Muslim colleges. <br /><br />You are a fraud. Pretend you have a clueMaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181542440127117342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-89874826980620475372017-07-17T22:46:52.299-04:002017-07-17T22:46:52.299-04:00Georgia Eagle, in case you are interested in actua...Georgia Eagle, in case you are interested in actual facts regarding diversity at Historically Black Colleges, according to the US Department of Education as of 2011, 25% of students at Historically Black Colleges are races other than African American. If you're going to complain and demonstrate your ignorance, at least have some facts. <br /><br />http://time.com/2907332/historically-black-colleges-increasingly-serve-white-students/<br />curranachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559982291519143301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-12051542982133037302017-07-17T17:39:34.064-04:002017-07-17T17:39:34.064-04:00Hypocritical Hypocritical Geezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76778528936214046912017-07-17T17:31:56.536-04:002017-07-17T17:31:56.536-04:00Section D,
Again proving my point with another pun...Section D,<br />Again proving my point with another punk comment.knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04805180161124683145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-92223009159668836392017-07-17T17:07:18.955-04:002017-07-17T17:07:18.955-04:00White faculty and studentsWhite faculty and studentsGeezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-65365812380647658082017-07-17T17:06:26.712-04:002017-07-17T17:06:26.712-04:00"Opening up the hiring criteria to see it'..."Opening up the hiring criteria to see it's more inclusive." More pc goblygook. How come our universities don't open up their faculties to conservative, straight-white male Republicans? How come historically black colleges don't have diversity for white faculty and suddenly? Why don't black majority cities like Atlanta and Detroit have affirmative action for white city workers.<br />Again, liberalism is hypocritic .Geezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-41410825847676675652017-07-17T16:52:48.473-04:002017-07-17T16:52:48.473-04:00we get it georgia....anyone that doesn't look ...we get it georgia....anyone that doesn't look like you doesn't deserve to be hired. and anyone that disagrees with you is a "liberal". you are a scumbag.BCBCBChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05934592155438963644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-1180985732435847332017-07-17T16:20:13.886-04:002017-07-17T16:20:13.886-04:00In fact, not relying on the Old Boys Network and i...In fact, not relying on the Old Boys Network and instead intentionally opening up the hiring criteria to ensure it's a more inclusive process is actually more inline with the merit based approach. curranachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559982291519143301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-64281036925357583682017-07-17T15:34:06.328-04:002017-07-17T15:34:06.328-04:00Georgia Eagle. I don't disagree that merit sho...Georgia Eagle. I don't disagree that merit should be the primary factor, but that is the definition of utopian.<br /><br />Reality is that with many hires, across public and private organizations whether they are for profit or non profit, it's who you know, not just what you know. <br /><br />Whether you love him or hate him, do you think Trump's family members are the most qualified people on earth to work at the White House? When a Jesuit applies for an academic position, do you think he has an advantage over a lay person? Ever gotten a heads up about a job that wasn't officially posted yet? <br /><br />The list goes on and on. It's how the world works.curranachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559982291519143301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-60986717980028313142017-07-17T15:15:11.703-04:002017-07-17T15:15:11.703-04:00oh meathead.... so desperate to stir the pot.
...oh meathead.... so desperate to stir the pot. <br /><br />modest34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13385809868499272238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-87653951417565294412017-07-17T15:10:32.867-04:002017-07-17T15:10:32.867-04:00Section D(that is where Daddy sits),
You are provi...Section D(that is where Daddy sits),<br />You are proving my point. You want to overcompensate for something that doesn't exist.<br /><br />You are an idiot of the highest order. <br /><br />You definitely did not go to Boston College. <br /><br />"meh." You are a punk too.knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04805180161124683145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-61699088867362533262017-07-17T14:31:44.517-04:002017-07-17T14:31:44.517-04:00BC has diversity reputation problem - not an actua...BC has diversity reputation problem - not an actual diversity problem <br /><br />Boston has a bigger diversity reputation problem that impacts BC.<br /><br />you can argue that diversity is bogus (it isn't), BC's reputation is BS (meh, needs improvement), or that Boston lesser reputation is unfair and wrong (kinda deserved). <br /><br />People (and other slobs here) can argue all day about it.<br /><br />People, esp young people who do not have a lot of world experience, make decisions based on perceptions of reputations. Bottom line is that this lesser reputation of BC is real and it really hurts BC in many ways. including recruiting athletes and coaches.<br /><br />it is a good thing - for many reasons - that BC is trying to fix it.modest34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13385809868499272238noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-74599772135653617272017-07-17T13:21:35.250-04:002017-07-17T13:21:35.250-04:00So you are all for race being a factor in the hiri...So you are all for race being a factor in the hiring decisions. I don't know wether to laugh or cry. There should be one, and only one criteria - MERIT!Geezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-85955432646118390792017-07-17T12:54:34.405-04:002017-07-17T12:54:34.405-04:00Compelling letter by Williams. Looks like both rol...Compelling letter by Williams. Looks like both roles are strong hires by our new AD as he builds out his department. Ultimately though he won't be judged on hiring, but on winning. If the department can help Daz and Christian build winning programs, that would certainly be the most efficient path back to ACC contention, but based on their own track records and Williams comment about hiring coaches, looks like we'll be starting fresh.<br /><br />In terms of other candidates, I would expect all of our finalists for leadership positions to be very well qualified, allowing us to "miss out" on something each one brings to the table. <br /><br />If race of the candidates was also part of the decision, I'm all for it. For too long, it wasn't part of the criteria used in the final hiring process of leadership roles at BC, because all of the final candidates were white.curranachttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559982291519143301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-30332613910376017012017-07-17T11:24:12.273-04:002017-07-17T11:24:12.273-04:00Nobody explicitly said they were hired because the...Nobody explicitly said they were hired because they were black. I sure as shit didn't. My point again is that any discussion of hiring/admittance based on diversity leads to uncertainty about the reason for them being chosen over someone else.knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04805180161124683145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-87928288338506748432017-07-17T11:21:02.670-04:002017-07-17T11:21:02.670-04:00*headdesk**headdesk*Eagleyticshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03559412391886588372noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76846107973531182342017-07-17T11:18:10.651-04:002017-07-17T11:18:10.651-04:00DannyBoy
Your age, experience, vocation and genera...DannyBoy<br />Your age, experience, vocation and general perspective of the world is unknown.<br /><br />I do know that people that talk like you do have serious issues and will not invite reality into their lives if it does not meet certain criteria.<br /><br />Diversity for diversity sake is a crock of shit. Just another way to allow people to feel good and assuage their perceived guilt.<br /><br /><br />All things being equal if the hires were based on a minority’s influence and good press; I cry racism<br /><br /><br />The new AD has not been in office long enough to pick the best candidates yet. Hell in his own words he puts family first. Not a bad ideal. But on the same coin don’t tell me he did his due diligence for present and future BC athletics with this decision. It reeks of comfort and easy route. It reeks of BC becoming non offensive to people that don’t give a shit. The Globe and people who read it vote for Hillary and the new world order. Let me know when am ISIL terrorist kills a family member or a lesbian or “transgender” gets your job. You do not have a clue of the real world. Hide behind AHANA stats and demand the world comply. You phoned and fraud.<br /><br />None of this matters as BC football is a joke. A head coach who does recruiting videos for snowflakes instead of keeping/ hiring the best assistant coaches.<br /><br />A head ciach who does not even understand the “nuances” of the game( your word). Jack Bicknell, Tom Coughlinanf Tom OBrien have forgotten more than this man knows or can hope to know.<br /><br />Players who think they will be the next Tom Brady or JJ Watts. While playing Wagner, Buffalo and other parishes just to go to a meaningless bowl game. It is people like you that have watered down this country to the point of becoming a banana republic.<br /><br />Go the the games. Tailgate with your beautiful friends. Pretend you have a clueMaxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181542440127117342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-73192790498584042292017-07-17T10:42:44.406-04:002017-07-17T10:42:44.406-04:00I use sarcasm, not profanity. A little thin-skinne...I use sarcasm, not profanity. A little thin-skinned, Danny Boy.<br />And how do YOU know these three were BEST QUALIFIED and not primarily diversity hires?Geezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-32351015731602235062017-07-17T09:43:06.829-04:002017-07-17T09:43:06.829-04:00Knuck, you raise a good point. The school IS talki...Knuck, you raise a good point. The school IS talking about it. I'm not saying we don't talk about it, but I am trying to advocate for the level of nuance that the conversation really deserves. If after being hired, people said that I was only hired because I'm a BC grad, it would do a disservice to me. It suggests that I didn't actually deserve to be hired.<br /><br />When BB was hired, lots of us were concerned about his resume, his coming from the MAC, is hiring practices, etc. Those are all valid concerns (that especially played out over his tenure). <br /><br />What is alarming with these hires is that no one is discussing their qualifications. If you (or others) have concerns about that, lets talk about that. But all I'm seeing are concerns over their race, and thats ridiculous - whether the University is discussing race or not. If we're going to talk about it, fine, but lets do it within the context of the qualifications of the hires. <br /><br />Also, I think part of the focus is being placed on the diversity within the Athletic Department is because there is such a strong AHANA representation on campus, and yet that isn't matched within the Athletic Department. <br /><br />As for you, GE, who's offended? From the name calling and vitriol spewing out of your mouth, you sure sound like the offended party. If that is the only language you know, then maybe its time to go back to the kids table and let the adults speak maturely about mature, nuanced subjects. And for the fifth time, if you have any concerns about the qualifications of our Deputy ADs, I'd love to hear them. So far you've done nothing but dodge the real questions and bluster about.Danny Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00307800426123780860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-77372894854928382242017-07-17T06:45:26.196-04:002017-07-17T06:45:26.196-04:00Save your breath, Knuck. The "Offended Class&...Save your breath, Knuck. The "Offended Class" in this form live in a surrealistic liberal bubble world as they write from their exclusively white gated communities. Hypocrites.<br />Geezer eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10478348312836625701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-44465211381589143462017-07-16T23:53:46.025-04:002017-07-16T23:53:46.025-04:00With all respect. You are missing the point. The s...With all respect. You are missing the point. The school is making a point about diversity by dropping an article about it into the best sports section in America. The school is "talking up diversity" publicly and then hiring a right hand and left hand person to the AD who are "diverse." They are the ones implying that there is a diversity issue at Boston College and then hiring people that are "diverse." Are they trying to "fix" the problem? <br /><br />The school and the AD are making a big deal about it. Who knows if the three hires were made based on merit alone, merit/diversity status or diversity status alone. Once the institution clamors about something other than merit a level of uncertainty arises about fairness. Unless one is comfortable with hypocracy one cannot allow any group to be treated unfairly. <br /><br />AHANA students make up 37% of the school which is pretty close to the demographic dispersion in the US(more diverse by percentage than the US population)<br /><br />Whomever says BC is not diverse is absolutely ignorant and has not spent enough time there(cough cough). <br /><br /> <br /><br /><br /><br /> Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-71987672805392303002017-07-16T23:28:24.566-04:002017-07-16T23:28:24.566-04:00Knuck, there is a difference between hiring divers...Knuck, there is a difference between hiring diverse people and affirmative action. You can hire highly qualified people who happen to be diverse, or you can hire less than qualified people because they're diverse. <br /><br />I haven't seen anyone able to say that these two aren't qualified. If they're qualified, and they appear to be, diversity is ancillary. If they're qualified, race should not be a concern of ours, and yet it appears to be for a subset of these readers. Suggesting that these two qualified individuals got their jobs because of race is patronizing at best, and racist, as others have suggested, at worst. Danny Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00307800426123780860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-40003030209407248352017-07-16T23:10:06.371-04:002017-07-16T23:10:06.371-04:00There is no such thing As a “no brainer” hire deci...There is no such thing As a “no brainer” hire decision. If you think that you have not thought at all. Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181542440127117342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-16655928280792443172017-07-16T23:01:46.519-04:002017-07-16T23:01:46.519-04:00I love diversity. The only problem is it doesn’t ...I love diversity. The only problem is it doesn’t work. Can’t wait for the ISIL, LGBT-XYZ and 3 legged bisexual cyborg to be hired.<br /><br />The issue people refuse to acknowledge regarding diversity is just because you think it is the right thing to do doesn’t make it true or right.<br /><br />Sounds like GE speaks from experience. Everyone who is offended has led a charmed life. God Bless.<br /><br />Look up the definition of utopia Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11181542440127117342noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-78032099231930451362017-07-16T22:41:47.448-04:002017-07-16T22:41:47.448-04:00Danny Boy the Globe and the AD are talking about d...Danny Boy the Globe and the AD are talking about diversity. They are making a point about it publicly. They want you to see that they are hiring a diverse slate of employees. They want the public to know that they aren't racist/bias. Is it racist or bias to say what you observe and also what the school is espousing?<br /><br />What am I missing? <br /><br />They wanted more diversity and hired an athletic department that is managed in-full by African Americans. Saying(writing) that you see a hiring trend that is consciously being formed(by the AD and indirectly by the President of the University) is not racist/bias.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.com