tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post7217520373506113209..comments2024-03-24T05:21:33.293-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: Second viewing thoughts and grades: NC StateATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-80303991439551171332015-11-10T20:10:47.656-05:002015-11-10T20:10:47.656-05:00"I think all anyone can say is that we are ex..."I think all anyone can say is that we are extremely disappointed with the team and the head coach"<br /><br />What is this "we" stuff? There are plenty of people who don't agree with you. Give it another two years for the wine to mature before you judge it. Wait till the plant flowers before you call it ugly. Sorry that we are not all as smart as you, but there you have it.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-2362255157478877442015-11-10T19:58:45.445-05:002015-11-10T19:58:45.445-05:00"To Joseph : please do not put Jags in the sa..."To Joseph : please do not put Jags in the same category as Tom O'Brien'<br /><br />This is so typical of posters reations to others. I nver said that they were in the same category. I said that they were both pilloried. get it. Even when they had winning seasons people wanted more. Ego identification.Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-38237622813649522672015-11-10T19:26:40.770-05:002015-11-10T19:26:40.770-05:00W/ u on the kicker, we have Alcott of good DBS com...W/ u on the kicker, we have Alcott of good DBS coming back. I really like Milano, and Goodapple. The last Spaz team was worse. Completely uncompetitive on both sides of the ball. Our current team has an excellent D. Under Spaz it was death by bubble screen.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-52279280036152382962015-11-10T18:06:48.529-05:002015-11-10T18:06:48.529-05:00I agree that we have chocked a lot. We have had so...I agree that we have chocked a lot. We have had some bad years. This is the worst team we have had since 1979. With Spaz and Henning it was them who sucked. The players were pretty good. The next coach recovered the program pretty quickly. On this team the players are not very good and they are not improving. Next season will be a throw-away because we don't have a QB. The defense is good but losing Daniels and Wojack is going to ruin us next season. Strahan is a real good player but he and Landry are all we will have on the front 7-8.<br /><br />I don't see the talent and more than that I don't see the player development needed to make average players good and good players very good. <br /><br />The coach cannot recruit a kicker. We lost two games this season on account of the kicker. That should have been the number one priority of Adazzio after the Penn State embarrassment in the Bronx. <br /><br />Coach,<br />Get off ESPN, stop glad handing for "Wheels Up" and recruit a goddamned kicker and a flipping QB. Do your freaking job.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-42601246146906315082015-11-10T18:04:15.419-05:002015-11-10T18:04:15.419-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-13550843851804577872015-11-10T17:52:23.107-05:002015-11-10T17:52:23.107-05:00Knuck
There have been more bad periods than good....Knuck<br /><br />There have been more bad periods than good. Even the great 84 year we lost to both WVA & PSU. Back in thosedays we played what was known as Eastern football and those 2 were key rivals. So in our finest year since Chuckin Charlie, we really didn't get to the next level. We 've had plenty of years just as bad as this. That's why we've had so many coaches. I love BC too as evidenced by my many years of avid fandom, but I don't think we'll ever really compete w/ the factories. Once before I bite the dust I'd like to see an outright league title, but I'm running out of years. Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-9735832337582904832015-11-10T16:20:22.750-05:002015-11-10T16:20:22.750-05:00Hoib,
Thanks for the back up on Costanzo.
In my 3...Hoib,<br />Thanks for the back up on Costanzo.<br /><br />In my 36 years this is the worst team the school has had. I think the year I was born we had no wins. It has been pretty good since then overall.<br /><br />There have been several opportunities to get to the next level. Flutie lost to WV or Penn St in 84. After beating Texas in '72? the team had a couple crummy loses. David Green fumbled in an absolute fucking shit storm zoo Alumni Stadium against WV. The guy sitting two rows in from of me had a fucking heart attack literally. TOB was a complete stiff and fowled up the 3-4 ACC Championships games we got to. <br /> <br /><br />Remember after the football gambling scandal. Everyone said the program was effed. It came back. I am concerned that we are going with a running QB and not a drop back pro-type. Doesn't fit.<br /><br />I fucking love Boston College.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-62914925711103240912015-11-10T13:07:13.474-05:002015-11-10T13:07:13.474-05:00DB
I think we are saying pretty much the same thi...DB<br /><br />I think we are saying pretty much the same things. The difference is that in my 44 years and counting of closely watching the team, we've never gotten to the next level. So is it realistic to assume we can?Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-21736356309156566452015-11-10T12:48:31.397-05:002015-11-10T12:48:31.397-05:00DB - who's thinking BC can ever get a Nick Sa...DB - who's thinking BC can ever get a Nick Saban???? BC has never sought to pick off a successful brand name coach in any sport (maybe Hockey)<br /><br />but would you trade Daz for Matt Rhule? in heartbeat....right.. ..<br /><br />AD at BC is tough....you gotta find that emerging star HC.. BCAD needs real vision.... Daz had potential at first.... and seemed promising....but now we see he is largely exposed as very mediocre in most ways.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-32464271876780235592015-11-10T12:43:54.116-05:002015-11-10T12:43:54.116-05:00hoib.. if you are interested in accurate info, rat...hoib.. if you are interested in accurate info, rather than propaganda to support Daz (you really like him and think he can coach, I see.. almost as much as the editors of BCI... what's the deal with that), see my prior link...indicating his playing weight as a frosh in 2007 - 295 lbs.... all his other OL line mates were over 300. mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-48634591060553871792015-11-10T12:30:16.283-05:002015-11-10T12:30:16.283-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-8331328351934186802015-11-10T12:20:31.260-05:002015-11-10T12:20:31.260-05:00HOIB, you alluded to the issue everyone had with T...HOIB, you alluded to the issue everyone had with TOB, but stopped just short. Yes, he produced the most consistent era in 40 years, but he maxed out. When you're consistently at 8 wins, you want someone to take you to the next level. TOB was not that guy. Its almost like he had a pathological resistance winning the must-win game every year.<br /><br />We all thought Jags was taking us to the next level, but we'll never know the long-term viability there.<br /><br />What is interesting to me is that everyone here acts as if we're ready to make the post-TOB jump, when in reality, after 7 years of turmoil, we're at a pre-TOB place. While I would kill to get back to consistent 8-win seasons, if we're still there after 10 years and consistently losing the must-win games, I'll be clamoring for an upgrade (and hope our AD is up to the task).<br /><br />I think you're spot on with be careful what you wish for. If we fire Daz, especially this year, Nick Saban is not walking through the door. We're not going to get a name brand coach. We're either going to land a fallen star looking for a quick redemption story, or going to take a flier on an un-tested coordinator that could go either way. Danny Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00307800426123780860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-51887138178287846462015-11-10T12:10:11.327-05:002015-11-10T12:10:11.327-05:00Anthony Castonzo
6-7, 260 | Class of 2007
Hometown...Anthony Castonzo<br />6-7, 260 | Class of 2007<br />HometownLake Zurich, Ill.School (POST)PositionOffensive TackleStatus Signed Boston CollegeHoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-9643105552005441382015-11-10T11:14:33.150-05:002015-11-10T11:14:33.150-05:00BB
The period you bring up, basically the second ...BB<br /><br />The period you bring up, basically the second half of the TOB era + Jags., is the most consistent era of good football we've played in my tenure going back to 72. Which is why it's a head scratcher to me that people had such issue's w/ TOB. We now play against stronger league competition than we ever have. Which makes it that much harder to achieve TOB like #'s let alone what the typical person on this blog expects. Now if we get a repeat next year of this, then Daz is gone, but w/ a huge cost. Another lost year of recruiting, and who will he be replaced w/? Not a tried and true top of the line HC, but a role of the dice coordinator, or some HC retread. Be careful what you wish for.Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-5057134102580992962015-11-10T10:44:20.151-05:002015-11-10T10:44:20.151-05:00Hoib, as much as I didn't like TOB, he led BC ...Hoib, as much as I didn't like TOB, he led BC to how many 8 win seasons in a row? Heck, even Jags was able to string together back to back ACC Championship appearance, even after losing a lot of players after his first year. It's been done before and it certainly can be done again with the right coach. <br /><br />The thing with Daz is that there are way too many problems things he cannot or will not solve. If there was a decent chance that he would be able to fix these problems, I might not have a problem keeping him around for another year. However, he is truly terrible at performing fundamental coaching responsibilities, like clock management, creating workable game plans, making in-game adjustments, personnel management, hiring qualified assistant coaches and coordinators, and now even recruiting, that I don't think there's any hope he can turn it around.Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-5986201510187131792015-11-10T09:51:29.299-05:002015-11-10T09:51:29.299-05:00GP11 - you've got some Donald Trump traits.......GP11 - you've got some Donald Trump traits.... if you do not like a response off you go into insult and sarcasm mode . ... I would hope your BC liberal arts education would have prepared you better, but then again you might have graduated from BC's vocational program - CSOM. :-)<br /><br />and let me just say that being better than Spaz, or improving on Spaz's results, is not an accomplishment that should carry any weight. 99% of HC candidates would have improved on the Spaz Error.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-22611626590778949122015-11-10T08:16:40.572-05:002015-11-10T08:16:40.572-05:00GP11
Very well put. I love these people who just ...GP11<br /><br />Very well put. I love these people who just shrug off an 8 win season like it's nothing. I've been watching since 72, and there haven't been all that many 8 win seasons. For most of that time we weren't playing ACC caliber teams. Why do we have a fan base that expects FSU type results when there is no history to back it up. Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-87941282730128776872015-11-10T08:12:23.868-05:002015-11-10T08:12:23.868-05:00I think all anyone can say is that we are extremel...I think all anyone can say is that we are extremely disappointed with the team and the head coach. If I was managing him - I would not fire him (in view of his contract and one bad year) but I certainly would be all over him re recruiting and the steps/progress he and his staff make in the off season to avoid a repeat of this season. Daz is the highest paid employee of the university. He should feel the pressure. I agree with most here that his primary focus needs to be the OL. <br /><br />I feel far less troubled by Daz than I do with Brad Bates and the people who hired him. The contract extension he gave to Daz was totally premature and not just in hindsight. I never felt comfortable with Bates - always thought he was more an academician/bureaucrat than a solid manager and the wrong temperament for the job - not nearly aggressive enough in so many areas. Yes, he makes a good appearance and is highly articulate, measured and vocal about the education aspects of our athletes. But you need more than that for the AD's job. You need someone much more bottom line focused on winning as well - whether that means with respect to personnel or making proper investments to keep us competitive - and somebody who can handle the administration and build support among the trustees and alums. <br /><br />The type of guy for the AD job would be someone like a Tom Coughlin. Someone for whom playing by and within the rules is a given - but someone you do not want to cross or disappoint - whether you coach football or field hockey. Somebody who rewards success but has a low tolerance for failure. Somebody like that would have had the facilities (practice, baseball)and parking issues much further along at this point and would have changed coaching personnel in perpetual losing programs like baseball, volleyball and women's basketball. Not cutthroat, not a win at all costs attitude - but definitely focused on excellence and people earning their paychecks.Napolean Bonapartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400468172192375595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-26459771187087526082015-11-10T07:45:21.809-05:002015-11-10T07:45:21.809-05:00Mod, your expertise of the ways of the college foo...Mod, your expertise of the ways of the college football coach is truly unrivaled. I apologize for ever questioning you. Obviously a better coach would have been able to flip a handful (at least) of 4/5 star recruits upon being hired then immediately elevated a team from 2-10 to national title contender in a minimum of 2 years. <br /><br />Bravesbill, I won't speak for others, but for myself, it's less about how many wins he needs and more about the general growth of the team. I think there are very few people left who are ride or die with Daz. He built a lot of capital with many for taking Spaz's lackluster roster and immediately making it to two bowl games. This year has exposed a lot of warts, but all of them are fixable. He needs to show growth from the team (continuing to improve the talent pool, developing the line, finding a reliable QB) and also individually (closing out winnable games a la Wake and Duke is a must, better halftime adjustments, improving the balance on offense). <br /><br />Like CT said, I don't think these things are out of the realm of possibility. If they happen, we at least go to a bowl. If things break right, you're looking for 8-10 wins, and a great set up for 2017. We saw the last couple years that with the right talent, the offense works and is exciting. The line starts blasting big holes open for our backs to break off big runs and then we can capitalize off play-action for big gains in the passing game. His first two years he had senior QBs with good tools as well as quality O-lines. I'm happy to be patient for another year or two no matter how frustrating the past 10 games have been.<br /><br />I don't know if Daz is the long-term answer. Frankly, it doesn't affect me one bit. I'm not going to stubbornly hold onto hope that he is the savior if we have a repeat of this next year or aren't sniffing a division title by 2017. At a minimum he has helped restock the talent pool and if the results are not there on the field next year someone else will be brought in who can hopefully improve the current team and continue to build for the future.GP11https://www.blogger.com/profile/18114348784688324267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-50071058063318830782015-11-10T07:44:27.442-05:002015-11-10T07:44:27.442-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.GP11https://www.blogger.com/profile/18114348784688324267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-54651883980646210082015-11-10T02:15:23.429-05:002015-11-10T02:15:23.429-05:00Not a mulligan. Just perspective.
Hard to imagin...Not a mulligan. Just perspective. <br /><br />Hard to imagine him not getting two more years. <br /><br />What does he need? Nobody he knows to read blog posts-which represent less than 1% of anything. Get a QB, Wade or Brown, and fix the oline! Compete with Clemson and FSU. We nearly beat both last year. All of this is very doable and you don't even need to fire anyone. Yet. CThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05783098791522341665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-18688434047112764132015-11-09T23:25:50.048-05:002015-11-09T23:25:50.048-05:00For everyone who wants to give Daz a mulligan for ...For everyone who wants to give Daz a mulligan for this year, what will it take next year for you to call for his head? If he wins more games next year than this year, is that good enough for another year? What about just mere improvement? Does he need a .500 record?Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-70815870550963362082015-11-09T23:13:59.374-05:002015-11-09T23:13:59.374-05:00Yes, JERZ, Daz blows in many dimensionsYes, JERZ, Daz blows in many dimensionsmod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-25012207355283363582015-11-09T22:54:04.314-05:002015-11-09T22:54:04.314-05:00You guys can bicker all you want about castanzo et...You guys can bicker all you want about castanzo etc... But I think the real question is... Even if we are semi mediocre next year and begin to pick up some momentum... Don't you find addazios style and offensive scheme super boring and unappealing?<br /><br />Like lets say we return to being serviceable at around an 8-4 clip... Which to be honest really isn't that great ... But lets say we aren't a complete and utter embarassment... everything about this program will still stink. All three years of addazios body of work have just been jv-esque. Even people who aren't really into football view our program as a joke.<br /><br />It's just beyond depressing. JERZeaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10765767282825088433noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-55793505149644137922015-11-09T22:06:36.284-05:002015-11-09T22:06:36.284-05:00knuck - sure some of these young OLs will develop...knuck - sure some of these young OLs will develop into good OLs. I agree.<br /><br />"Adazzio should have forseen the line situation this season" I agree<br /><br />"My concern now is that I don't see any improvement during the season." I agree.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.com