tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post7534087164504268445..comments2024-03-24T05:21:33.293-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: Second viewing thougths and grade report: ClemsonATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-6275374794979110592009-09-22T00:11:24.175-04:002009-09-22T00:11:24.175-04:00ATL-great analysis of the offensive woes. I agree ...ATL-great analysis of the offensive woes. I agree that the line looked mismanaged--spacing and assignments were ambiguous and confused. Guys in orange just blew by 'em--big gaps and no adjustments. These are good players we have up there and they looked marooned. As for Tuggle--I agree again. During the game I couldn't believe we didn't screen or go to the TE's. It was uninspired play calling--predictable and weak. Tuggle is NEW. But he has cojones and fought down to the end. Yeah--you're right on--he didn't throw an accurate long ball--but he didn't get much time, didn't use the pocket like he might, and had some drops that should have been caught,too. We need a commit to Tuggle and make up our minds now. He had some good runs and that TD pass was no fluke. It's all on Tranquil and the rest of the O coaches. These kids need a plan and the coaches need to create and invent to match the talent and the opponent. It was embarrassing for our kids--but, yes, the D was gutsy and tough. All your grades were right on. The question is, will Spaz make the right moves, raise some hell, kick some butts and straighten out this mess pronto?mmasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10069140509176448295noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-58408796656335920962009-09-21T16:50:04.412-04:002009-09-21T16:50:04.412-04:00OK BC - let's buckle up and get this figured...OK BC - let's buckle up and get this figured out. That was maybe the ugliest performance I have ever witnessed - and I have been a fan for more years than I care to mention - and a season ticket holder since 1972.<br /><br />I was at the game (nice to see you, Atl) and also watched it Sunday night late - glutton for punishment. I really wanted to see why the offensive line was so bad. I was shocked at the performance and Atl did a great job explaining what happened - wow.<br /><br />"because the body language of most of the team was terrible" - Atl, that could indicate internal disension and a problem with coaching? You bet it could - the coach(es) (Nyquill) has to give the players a game plan with a CHANCE to win - that's all they ask!<br /><br />The Gary Nyquill watch has officially begun (Hey Coach Spaz - sometimes it's your friends who let you down the most). Some of you may recall that I was pretty vocal against this guy when he was given the job out of retirement. If there is no improvement next week, the squawks will begin for sure. SHOW US SOME IMPROVEMENT - LIKE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!<br /><br />How about this? See the guy in front of you - block him, nothing fancy, just block him.<br /><br />"Larmond was a non-factor and worse, allowed himself to get pushed out of bounds on a deep route." Colin came back in bounds legally but the pass bounced off his helmet as the Clemson defender fell to the turf - COULD HAVE BEEN A TOUCHDOWN - he could have caught that ball. Actually a pretty good pass by Tuggle.<br /><br /><br />Erik - heat and humidity not really a factor - it was 95 degrees plus the heat index when we beat them in 2005.Big Jack Krackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12202172743722727956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-23176607275268052832009-09-21T16:38:37.609-04:002009-09-21T16:38:37.609-04:00mod 34b -
The idea of bringing back Shinskie see...mod 34b - <br /><br />The idea of bringing back Shinskie seems pretty terrible in my opinion. The guy was completely lost. Tuggle seems to have some upside, and should be stuck with at this point. <br /><br />And I thought you were done mentioning the idea of Flutie as a qb on this board? We get it, his uncle played qb.matthew2https://www.blogger.com/profile/13672449714617109618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-8359628959388942009-09-21T15:46:43.633-04:002009-09-21T15:46:43.633-04:00Ugh, how in God's name did you stand watching ...Ugh, how in God's name did you stand watching that again?<br /><br />I've never, in my whole life, seen BC's offense look that bad. That was an F if I ever saw one.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00550531212240587496noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-36135112509397684372009-09-21T14:07:16.556-04:002009-09-21T14:07:16.556-04:00I agree that Tuggle kept playing hard. I liked th...I agree that Tuggle kept playing hard. I liked that he was trying to get something - anything - by going downfield. Obviously, the result of some of those (INTs) was unfortunate, but he showed he has a fire in his game - that he wants to win, and will not go down without a fight.<br />Also, he has a strong arm. It's very difficult to throw a wet ball, and I think that's why a few of his passes sailed on him, and hung up too long. He is still very young, and will learn how to throw a wet ball. I have faith in him, and this team, to respond positively to this game,.TJHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02478128500659845484noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-54376759107366165882009-09-21T13:36:53.127-04:002009-09-21T13:36:53.127-04:00"The most damning play of the day was punting..."The most damning play of the day was punting on 4th and 2 from midfield in the second half."<br /><br />Amen. I couldn't believe my eyes when he sent the punt team out there.BCMikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04259278849389650910noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-63734095474266848292009-09-21T13:33:54.403-04:002009-09-21T13:33:54.403-04:00from Today's Globe:
" A day after a 25-...from Today's Globe:<br /><br />"<i> A day after a 25-7 loss to Clemson in the Eagles’ Atlantic Coast Conference opener Saturday, Spaziani’s mind-set had changed for a simple reason: The BC offense, led by redshirt freshman starting quarterback Justin Tuggle, was indeed “broke.’’ And it wasn’t any better during the brief time that Dave Shinskie called the signals in the second quarter.<br /><br />Bottom line: Spaziani and his staff know they have to fix the offense in a hurry, since Wake Forest is coming to town Saturday, followed by Florida State, then BC travels to Virginia Tech. It’s “game on’’ in the process of determining whether the Eagles are any good this season.<br /><br />“We were disappointed,’’ Spaziani said yesterday about a performance . . . <br /><br />“We’ve seen the problems, and we’re in the process of moving forward,’’ Spaziani said.<br /><br />The coach said anything could be changed, including the situation at QB, which could mean true freshman Mike Marscovetra will get more reps during practice this week and maybe a larger role against Wake Forest.<br /><br />“There’s never a quick fix,’’ said Spaziani. “Losing maximizes the problems. The problems aren’t going away. It’s how we address them. We have to manage them differently. The problems are correctable.’’ . . .<br /><br />“The quarterback situation is problematic,’’ said Spaziani, who did say that a positive was Tuggle getting experience under fire for the first time in his career.<br /><br /></i>"mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-77063081909912515562009-09-21T13:26:43.864-04:002009-09-21T13:26:43.864-04:00Here is an interesting quote from a Globe article,...Here is an interesting quote from a Globe article, suggesting (apparently after talking to Spaz) that Shinskie is headed down to #3 QB. <br /><br />"<i>“It’s an ongoing project with a capital ‘P,’ ’’ said Spaziani, talking about the QB situation but likely referring to much more.<br /><br />Tuggle says there is no mystery in what happened. “We simply didn’t execute,’’ he said. Tuggle probably will start next weekend when Wake Forest visits Alumni Stadium, but true freshman Mike Marscovetra could move into the No. 2 slot ahead of Shinskie.<br /><br />Spaziani sees a week of hard work and evaluation ahead.</i>"<br /><br /><br />ps >>> Google is making it difficult to sign in to the blog-o-shpere..i keep having to verify my cell phone and then get a txt from good which i have to type into the blog sign in page . . . anyone else which such hassles?mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-41303713682338107672009-09-21T12:47:04.161-04:002009-09-21T12:47:04.161-04:00ATl -- great analysis on O-Line and D, but let me ...ATl -- great analysis on O-Line and D, but let me disagree with you on Tuggle. <br /><br />Tuggle's stats were not bad, they were pathetic. 4/20 for 23 yards, 1 td and 3 pics. Using the pro QB rating system, that amounts to a rating of 16.66. Had he not gotten the TD (which was really just good luck, albeit luck he capitalized upon), his rating would have been 0 -- that is right a zero. Billy Flutie would have done better with no practice at all!<br /><br />As far as him having a sense of the D, as you note, that did not appear to be the case from my vantage point. Its funny because Tuggle plays against the BC D all the time and should be better. BC's defense is as good as Clemson's D, so it should not have been so bad, but it WAS!!<br /><br />In short, ATL, I think with Tuggle you are selling your hopes, not your usually hard-headed facts.<br /><br />Bring back Shinskie!!mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-42303163197271053102009-09-21T11:11:41.049-04:002009-09-21T11:11:41.049-04:00The reason I didn't give the offense an F is b...The reason I didn't give the offense an F is because Anderson and Pantale played well and Tuggle fought hard.ATL_eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-91335350551847549402009-09-21T11:04:09.082-04:002009-09-21T11:04:09.082-04:00Regarding Gunnell, I agree. The game is, in my op...Regarding Gunnell, I agree. The game is, in my opinion, completely different if it weren't for the first dropped pass on. If he makes that catch BC starts the game stretching the D and we don't end up punting. We're also in the red zone and likely to put points on the board. The 2nd drop was a first down that was in his hands, and it turned into an interception. Those 2 drops completely change the game if they are catches.<br /><br />That being said, the play calling was dreadful. First down - run. Second down - run. Third down - draw or dump pass. Completely lacked originality and diversity. We all expected this from Tranq but the first 2 games gave us false hope. He faced a worthy adversary and he crawls back into his safety blanket and we get embarrassed. <br /><br />Edit: appropriately, the word for verification is "Zinger"eagle1331https://www.blogger.com/profile/13479214563300900733noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-47517737530426439882009-09-21T10:12:22.837-04:002009-09-21T10:12:22.837-04:00I totally agree about the decision to punt late in...I totally agree about the decision to punt late in the game. Did not like that call at all. That showed zero confidence in the offense to pick up a couple of yards. Plus, we were behind 2 scores and time was ticking. What did they have to lose? If you don't make it you risk being down 3scores. Big deal, that is the way it ended up anyway. If you make it, now you have momentum and the team develops some confidence. <br /><br />If this offensive play continues for more than a couple games, Spaz is going to have to hold someone accountable. That is what leaders do. Otherwise, Gene will need to hold him accountable.eaglebostonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17536194020385661646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-83967912132010194272009-09-21T09:59:15.628-04:002009-09-21T09:59:15.628-04:00What exactly would the offense have to do to get a...What exactly would the offense have to do to get an F? Negative yardage?@timstwrthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00449880547941136306noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-14167396529999006012009-09-21T09:06:45.536-04:002009-09-21T09:06:45.536-04:00Totally agree about Gunnell. He was worse than th...Totally agree about Gunnell. He was worse than the O-Line on Saturday. He absolutely was. Rich dropped catchable balls, he was fair catching returnable punts. He made a couple positive plays, but overall we NEEDED someone to go out and make a play and get us some momentum with a first down, he had some chances to be that guy, and the captain didn't step up.<br /><br />It was like a different person put on the #18 jersey.<br /><br />ATL - What was the weather like beyond the rain & lightning. Was heat & humidity bad enough to have played a role in BC's struggles?Erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10852682232912278307noreply@blogger.com