tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post822125557708672643..comments2024-03-24T05:21:33.293-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: CounterpointATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-10370829886668190432010-10-15T08:46:00.777-04:002010-10-15T08:46:00.777-04:00Like how to spell his name the supersecret BFF way...Like how to spell his name the supersecret BFF way? <br /><br />Just sayin'.Dariushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07846444942276961774noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-3101399153083039322010-10-15T08:24:54.987-04:002010-10-15T08:24:54.987-04:00Don't get sarcastic because you didn't kno...Don't get sarcastic because you didn't know who Colin Larmond Jr. was. Your ignorance is not my fault. Never-the-less it is sad that you do not know who he is especially for someone who follows the team a closely as you do. <br /><br />My brother was roommates with Hayden 2 years ago. I know more than you do so beat it.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-8664544502521424962010-10-15T08:16:31.129-04:002010-10-15T08:16:31.129-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-28154741393737255992010-10-15T00:12:17.932-04:002010-10-15T00:12:17.932-04:00Who's Jessie Tuggle? I can see you really foll...Who's Jessie Tuggle? I can see you really follow this team closely. Regardless, none of those players were felons as you put it.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135806261199062006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-77257030911895349212010-10-14T20:15:09.339-04:002010-10-14T20:15:09.339-04:00Colin Larmond Jr. He basically recruited the Phil...Colin Larmond Jr. He basically recruited the Phillips kid though so you were close there Ryan.<br /><br />I forgot to mention Ugo Ukpara(spelling), Jessie Tuggle, and Josh Hayden . . . all highly questionable character-wise.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-40372999606103017592010-10-14T20:05:31.856-04:002010-10-14T20:05:31.856-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Knuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-79111920582978213422010-10-14T13:30:31.143-04:002010-10-14T13:30:31.143-04:00Who is this receiver from Jersey who is hurt but w...Who is this receiver from Jersey who is hurt but would be suspended? Phillips? What are you even talking about with Jags players being felons? Seriously idiotic.Ryanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18135806261199062006noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-67402697705604127052010-10-14T12:57:00.501-04:002010-10-14T12:57:00.501-04:00dubyacubed:
I don't want to spend all my time...dubyacubed:<br /><br />I don't want to spend all my time taking down Spaz. It is not fun. This blog is always more fun when we are winning. I like to think I defend the players so when an article comes out from EA throwing the current players under the bus, I will call BS.ATL_eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-27223804686578224082010-10-14T12:55:44.753-04:002010-10-14T12:55:44.753-04:00Our major problem this year is that we do not have...Our major problem this year is that we do not have a major problem. We has several major problems. 1)The Offensive line is the worst that we have had in years. Costanzo and Claiborne are ranked highly on the draft boards. They are proving this year why draft boards and recruiting ranks are bogus . . . it gives players a big head which leads to reduced effort and football has everything to do with effort. Also the loss of Matt Tennant has been huge. Without a decent QB or Center our offense is highly vulnerable against good defensive schemes. 2)The coaching. A) We have had three coaches in 5 years(or so). We have three different sets of players. TOB's, Jags(felons), and Spazs'. Have you all seen the spike in suspensions with Jags "guys?" The kid from Trinity Pawling is a disgrace, the wide receiver from Jersey is hurt but he would have been suspended otherwise, B) Spaz needs to figure out what his head coaching identity is so that the players know what to expect. Spaz is a pseudo Al Skinner in terms of his true mentality towards life but then he has this football mentality which is kind of disciplined/hardnosed. The players have to be seeing through this because they are completely uninspired, C) Who is the O-line coach? Whoever he is should be let go or moved to another role on the team. D) Our talent has always been inferior when compared to better teams be it in the Big East or the ACC. The only difference now is that we are not playing inspired smart football. That is coaching, that is talent, and that is players that do have now. <br /><br />I love Boston College football. We may have to bite the bullett for the rest of this year and next to give Spaz a chance. <br /><br />At this point as long as we beat Duke and UVA I will be happy this year. Those schools still have a chip on their shoulder because of The Civil War and we need to knock it off.<br /><br />Final thought. ND beat us because we were rooked by the officials in the first half and because of coaching. Fortunately/ Unfortunately Boston College will never pay officials under the table for calls and it will never pay someone 4 million dollars a year to coach football. Gene's overall perspective is what differentiates us from literally everyone else in college sports. He may take alot of crap but he has kept the program clean. For that I will deal with a couple of down years. Wwe all know Boston College sells itself so better coaches and players are on the wayKnuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-84746588837616852102010-10-14T12:55:18.603-04:002010-10-14T12:55:18.603-04:00Our major problem this year is that we do not have...Our major problem this year is that we do not have a major problem. We has several major problems. 1)The Offensive line is the worst that we have had in years. Costanzo and Claiborne are ranked highly on the draft boards. They are proving this year why draft boards and recruiting ranks are bogus . . . it gives players a big head which leads to reduced effort and football has everything to do with effort. Also the loss of Matt Tennant has been huge. Without a decent QB or Center our offense is highly vulnerable against good defensive schemes. 2)The coaching. A) We have had three coaches in 5 years(or so). We have three different sets of players. TOB's, Jags(felons), and Spazs'. Have you all seen the spike in suspensions with Jags "guys?" The kid from Trinity Pawling is a disgrace, the wide receiver from Jersey is hurt but he would have been suspended otherwise, B) Spaz needs to figure out what his head coaching identity is so that the players know what to expect. Spaz is a pseudo Al Skinner in terms of his true mentality towards life but then he has this football mentality which is kind of disciplined/hardnosed. The players have to be seeing through this because they are completely uninspired, C) Who is the O-line coach? Whoever he is should be let go or moved to another role on the team. D) Our talent has always been inferior when compared to better teams be it in the Big East or the ACC. The only difference now is that we are not playing inspired smart football. That is coaching, that is talent, and that is players that do have now. <br /><br />I love Boston College football. We may have to bite the bullett for the rest of this year and next to give Spaz a chance. <br /><br />At this point as long as we beat Duke and UVA I will be happy this year. Those schools still have a chip on their shoulder because of The Civil War and we need to knock it off.<br /><br />Final thought. ND beat us because we were rooked by the officials in the first half and because of coaching. Fortunately/ Unfortunately Boston College will never pay officials under the table for calls and it will never pay someone 4 million dollars a year to coach football. Gene's overall perspective is what differentiates us from literally everyone else in college sports. He may take alot of crap but he has kept the program clean. For that I will deal with a couple of down years. Wwe all know Boston College sells itself so better coaches and players are on the wayKnuckleheadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07847627726401491567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-72500441005221428712010-10-14T12:49:44.907-04:002010-10-14T12:49:44.907-04:00Lets look at the trends from the past 10 years.
W...Lets look at the trends from the past 10 years.<br /><br />We have been a team who have always lacked talent compared to most of our competitors. We never have had the same caliber recruits, the same amount of athletes, or the same amount of playmakers.<br /><br />However, we have been a team that gets coached up, makes fewer mistakes than we cause (on the whole) and generally do what is needed to win. We use each tool to their best and play within our own identity.<br /><br />Now we have an OC who has a history of refusing to model his schemes after the tools in his chest (see: Parker, Willie). Instead of finding ways to boost Shinksie's confidence and talent over 17 games, he keeps hammering away with the same game plan. Instead of finding ways to get our most valuable asset (Harris - another undersized RB for Tranquill to deal with) the ball he space he keeps sending him into a wall of defenders.<br /><br />Crane was by no means a great QB, but look at how he progressed in just the course of 8 games. Uncle Dave has seen twice that with no progress (and maybe even some regression). When Davis came in, the OC tailored the game to help Davis be successful. Have we seen any of that with our current OC?<br /><br />Maybe he knew that Shinskie and Marsco weren't the answer this year. If thats the case, why redshirt Rettig at all? We have a wealth of QBs, we can afford to burn a redshirt. Our current coaches don't seem to make decisions. They seem to float by on cruise control until something forces their hand. That isn't coaching, that is coasting.Danny Boyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00307800426123780860noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-46586818118465402892010-10-14T12:43:36.450-04:002010-10-14T12:43:36.450-04:00Two points:
1. Has anyone considered that it'...Two points: <br /><br />1. Has anyone considered that it's BOTH recruiting and coaching, and not necessarily one or the other?<br /><br />2. Before we completely throw Spaz under the bus, let's see what happens when we start a healthy, legitimate Div. 1-A quarterback for several games in a row. That has not happened since 2008.BCDoubleEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03860756154632438516noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-5396078338639993112010-10-14T12:32:55.188-04:002010-10-14T12:32:55.188-04:00I agree with ATL's point, which is that recrui...I agree with ATL's point, which is that recruiting is really not a factor for what's happening. While maybe we aren't as talented as the teams we lost to, it's no excuse to lose as badly as we have lost. Our talent may explain why we have a tough time ever doing better than 10-2, but it doesn't explain getting blown out on a regular basis to teams that aren't great in their own rights. How many very good players did we lose from last year? Gunnell, Tennant, McLoughlin, Bowman, Rollins, etc. were good, but were they that good? Look at ND for the last few years - they always had great recruiting, but something was lacking. It seemed like the players just didn't want to go out and lay it on the line for Charlie. Not saying that's what's happening here...just that recruiting is a big piece, but it doesn't always explain why a team struggles.Doornekamp!https://www.blogger.com/profile/09171088372226848596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-68627538503848140142010-10-14T11:12:23.191-04:002010-10-14T11:12:23.191-04:00Another take on the talent issue is to ask how our...Another take on the talent issue is to ask how our "somewhat lesser" talent limits the options for the coaches.<br /><br />Take Harris. He is talented. But his talents seem to be limited to btw the tackles plays. Because he lacks true "turn the corner" speed, we can't run outside with him.<br /><br />Take the present DL. They are talented in run stopping; but they lack the burst of energy and speed to be even decent pass rushers. As a result, the opposing QB gets too much time, and we have to resort to the horrible "bend-don't-break" defense.<br /><br />Take the current OL: formerly talented at run blocking, but not very talented at pass protection. As a result, QB lacks time and we need to throw shorter passes, but our WR are not quick enough and experienced enough to have crisp short routes; QB can't thread the needle on the short plays.<br /><br />Take our kick returners: they lack true big-league elusiveness, quickness and speed; hence we are often stuck with bad field position. We have to be happy that they don't fumble.<br /><br />So it is all one big mess where weaknesses limits options. It's easy to say the coaches play calling is bad, but what are the options? If Shinskie can't make a simple out pass for a 3 yards gain, what can the coaches do? If Harris can't run wide, what can the coaches do (The old "T" formation to give him a few yards lead time, maybe?)? If the DL can't rush, what great defensive packages can be implemented. Don't get me wrong, there must far more options than are being used now, but the options are limited base don talent issues. It is what it is.<br /><br />Because BC will always lag somewhat in the recruiting department, we need a coach with some imagination and verve. Spaz ain't that guy. He can't make silk purse from a sow's ear.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76139967188839904682010-10-14T10:59:52.537-04:002010-10-14T10:59:52.537-04:00I watched the 2006 BC/FSU game last night and was ...I watched the 2006 BC/FSU game last night and was surprised to be reminded of how many of those players have had or are having NFL careers. My evaluation is that we certainly don't have near that talent level and the fact we are playing os many true freshman is evidence of that. I also noticed the "can do" attitude of Ryan and that team was impressive. That only comes with confidence and our team is lacking this now. Having said all that what ever happened to BC teams playing at at level that is above their talent level. That has been our trademark and we seem to have regressed. However, I don't want this blog to devolve to a mdium where we only tera apart the current staff and team (Get rid of TOB, Jags is not committed, Spaz is over his head) this just doesn't feel good to me. Talent is down and all this transition has put us in a trough. Spaz will have a couple years to continue the success of BC so how about some constructive comments that a recuit might read on this board.dubyacubedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16442873664040428024noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-34503783052752349762010-10-14T10:52:11.512-04:002010-10-14T10:52:11.512-04:00When's the last time a BC wide receiver was a ...When's the last time a BC wide receiver was a regular in the NFL? Was it Waddle? We've had a bunch of pro-caliber players from every other position, but we can't seem to even luck into a star receiver. What's up with that?<br /><br />Also, can someone explain Boise St. to me? They never rank in the top 50 in recruiting, yet they manage to be regularly in the top 10 these days and competing against the biggest of the big boys when they happen to play them. How do they do it? Is it just great coaching? Or have they played too few real opponents to really have any idea what's going on?Doornekamp!https://www.blogger.com/profile/09171088372226848596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-35554860070330540342010-10-14T10:36:46.620-04:002010-10-14T10:36:46.620-04:00Vinny,
I love your optimism. Let's hope the...Vinny, <br /><br />I love your optimism. Let's hope the team shares it. I know I'll still be watching. <br /><br />Atl, <br /><br />Agree that these guys recruited the talent, so they shouldn't complaining about it. But we are young at QB and WR. What I was saying is more that it is conceiveable that we could go 2-3 with some of the youngin's playing against the teams we played, who are not pushovers. 2-3 would be disappointing, but somewhat reasonable, if we had played these teams tough. That's the bare minimum to expect with the talent we have. <br /><br />But we weren't even in the games, and the only real spark I saw was when Rettig finally calmed down against ND. Of course, maybe he wouldn't have needed to calm down if the staff had figured out he was our best chance sometime in the spring/summer.Mr. Tambourine MAnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16241297339200226040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-55499656403632189402010-10-14T10:31:32.175-04:002010-10-14T10:31:32.175-04:00Talent is not the only issue and not the biggest i...Talent is not the only issue and not the biggest issue - but it's definitely an issue at QB and WR. Our starting QB is one of the least talented in the ACC, if not the country. Our receiving core has potential - but our top 3 receivers consists of a guy who was playing DE in the Spring, one who has 2 years of organized football experience and one who played HS QB last Fall. There has been an ENORMOUS talent disparity at those key positions vs. ND, VT and NCST. <br />But to your point ATL - the current coaching staff was responsible for recruiting this talent and is responsible for maximizing it. So I put the last 3 weeks squarely on their shoulders.TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02538010972671468596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-23798974253103001482010-10-14T10:22:22.549-04:002010-10-14T10:22:22.549-04:00It all turns around this week. I think we will lo...It all turns around this week. I think we will look at these last three games as a growing process for this young team! I truely expect and believe that we will win this game! <br />Rettig brings new leadership and once we get going we won't be stopped!!!<br /><br />GO EAGLES!!!Americahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05109482084340210286noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-91730977439735155612010-10-14T10:15:09.862-04:002010-10-14T10:15:09.862-04:00The three teams we lost to are not juggernauts.
...The three teams we lost to are not juggernauts. <br /><br />VT lost to James Madison. Notre Dame lost twice in close games and got crushed by Stanford.<br /><br />East Carolina put up points on VT and we got shut out.<br /><br />I could go on. Talent is not the issue. And if it is talent then Spaz, McG, Siravo, Sirmans, Commy and Day need to look themselves in the mirror since they recruited the majority of these kids.ATL_eaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76853492096476076362010-10-14T09:52:02.151-04:002010-10-14T09:52:02.151-04:00Also, I just wanted to add: Keep the pressure on A...Also, I just wanted to add: Keep the pressure on ATL! Talent is not the only issue here, it doesn't benefit the team or the coaching staff if the fans and media let them skate by on this "we don't have the players", nonsense. We should have been seeing the talent improve over the past 17 games. Instead, I'm having trouble thinking of a lot of players who have gotten better under this staff. But I can think of quite a few who are performing worse. That's damning, and it needs to change or the coaching staff needs to change.Mr. Tambourine MAnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16241297339200226040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-31870508525031806992010-10-14T09:45:04.625-04:002010-10-14T09:45:04.625-04:00To Question 1: I'd say yes, we do have 2-3 tal...To Question 1: I'd say yes, we do have 2-3 talent. You stack up our overall talent against VT, ND and even NCST and I think most experts would agree that we don't have the depth, athleticism and experience of those teams. Particularly at the QB and WR.<br />However, the gap is not nearly as wide as the results of the those three games suggests. Which leads me to Questions 2. NO, we have not maximized the talent we do have. Not even close. And that's been the most discouraging aspect of the last 3 games. Uninspired play calling, zero emotion, sloppy, undisciplined penalties - this more than talent has led more than anything to the blowouts - IMO.TChttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02538010972671468596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-50299833578372770212010-10-14T09:44:49.500-04:002010-10-14T09:44:49.500-04:00Do we have 2-3 talent, sure, we played 3 tough tea...Do we have 2-3 talent, sure, we played 3 tough teams, no guarantees that we'd win any of those games. <br /><br />Has the staff done a good job with the talent they have. No. We have the talent to compete with VTech, NC State, and ND. But with the exception of the first half of VTech, we were not competitive in any of those games. We were embarrassed. We're not Vanderbilt, we have legit talent and the ability to compete and win against any team in the ACC. The fact that we haven't done so is on the staff. <br /><br />We've been embarrassed 5 times in the last two years. We've looked incompetent on offense at least that many times. I think that's a really bad sign for the future of this team under Spaz. Hope I'm wrong.Mr. Tambourine MAnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16241297339200226040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-74804290797031265062010-10-14T09:34:17.569-04:002010-10-14T09:34:17.569-04:00So instead of losing by 50, they'll only lose ...So instead of losing by 50, they'll only lose by 40 instead?Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-43098638415785282562010-10-14T09:16:59.657-04:002010-10-14T09:16:59.657-04:00Don't count this team out just yet:
A few pla...Don't count this team out just yet:<br /><br />A few players have taken it upon themselves to make sure everyone has their intensity where it should be.<br /><br />“I think everyone is pretty fired up,” said defensive end Alex Albright. “After practice (Tuesday) I was in the locker room and (cornerback) DeLeon (Gause) and (running back) Montel (Harris) were going around the locker room saying ‘We’ve got to bring it this week! We’ve got to bring it this week.!’ That’s not usually something you see after practice. Everyone’s pretty tired, but they were getting in everyone’s face, getting excited and I think that energy’s going to translate in practice over to the rest of the players.”<br /><br />Gause thinks that approach was necessary.<br /><br />“There’s a fire that needs to be sparked,” Gause said.<br /><br />- http://bostonherald.com/sports/college/football/view/20101014chase_rettig_ready_to_return_bc_could_use_sparkBCDoubleEaglehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03860756154632438516noreply@blogger.com