tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post4745829581767747348..comments2024-03-24T05:21:33.293-04:00Comments on Eagle in Atlanta -- atleagle.com: Reading into the Pearl media narrativeATL_eaglehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16014348799382628049noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-66141774620995316222014-01-26T17:54:43.557-05:002014-01-26T17:54:43.557-05:00I can't believe after watching the crap we hav...I can't believe after watching the crap we have for the last 3 years that a BC hoop fan wouldn't love to have Peal coach us. it' s entertainment where after, who's more entertaining than Bruce?Hoibhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12681823413809048599noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-31155103066201520682014-01-25T23:26:59.965-05:002014-01-25T23:26:59.965-05:00CT, look at Pearl's resume. you would be hard...CT, look at Pearl's resume. you would be hard pressed to find a more accomplished coach who would be willing to come to BC. he's great at what he does. why not hire him?EL MIZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12042895353703675136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-30254876589523540732014-01-25T17:36:10.291-05:002014-01-25T17:36:10.291-05:00Why are we so focused on one guy? We're so eag...Why are we so focused on one guy? We're so eager to have an alum coach us? I think many are getting tunnel vision. Guess anyone looks good comparatively speaking, but still...CThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05783098791522341665noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-45840876346256940842014-01-25T16:36:02.724-05:002014-01-25T16:36:02.724-05:00Wow...Nappy...you have to learn a little history.....Wow...Nappy...you have to learn a little history...especially since the Alice's Restaurant massacree happened in MA.<br /><br />God, I feel even older in the cold this week, if I have to explain that when the recruiting Sgt asked Arlo "Have you been rehabilitated?" Arlo loses it, since there was never any real crime or offense in the first place.<br /><br />Now, I'll get back in my time machine and return to the 1960's, a far, far better time in all respects.Lenny Sienkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106249138571503999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-5899824035044659312014-01-25T14:31:20.498-05:002014-01-25T14:31:20.498-05:00So Lenny what's your point? We shouldn't ...So Lenny what's your point? We shouldn't even interview the guy because Lenny knows that he is beyond redemption and will bring shame to BC - because Lenny knows that Bruce Pearl will say anything to get the coveted BC job? He has completely served his time and you never even met the guy. Catholicism rests on the power of forgiveness - its time BC set an example. All we want is a serious good faith interview. If Bates does that and concludes that there is still something wrong with the guy - fair enough. I hope he talks to Howland also.Napolean Bonapartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400468172192375595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-46493815613335085842014-01-25T14:09:01.138-05:002014-01-25T14:09:01.138-05:00When Bated asks Pearl: "Have you been rehabi...When Bated asks Pearl: "Have you been rehabilitated?"<br /><br /><br />You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant<br />You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant<br />Walk right in it's around the back<br />Just a half a mile from the railroad track<br />You can get anything you want, at Alice's Restaurant<br /><br />(With apologies to Arlo Guthrie)Lenny Sienkohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18106249138571503999noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76459693260089774972014-01-25T11:04:13.314-05:002014-01-25T11:04:13.314-05:00this thread sort of baffles me. Pearl has "s...this thread sort of baffles me. Pearl has "served his time" while being forced out of Tennessee and not coaching the past few years. American society at large forgives for far, far graver offenses. this guy had a bbq at his house and lied to the NCAA, an absolute sham institution. he made a handful of impermissible phone calls to recruits. and he got penalized and has been out of the game. isn't that how its supposed to work? do wrong, serve time, be able to re-enter society.<br /><br />Bates should at the very least meet with the guy and see what he's like -- is he repentant and eager for a second opportunity? would he love to come back to his alma mater and resurrect the program and his career? if the feeling Bates gets is that Pearl is (A) rehabilitated, (B) remorseful, and (C) wants the job, i find it extremely hard to believe we'd find a better candidate.<br /><br />Pearl went 231-46 at Southern Indiana (833% winning percentage), 86-38 at Milwaukee (69% winning percentage), and 145-61 (70% winning percentage) at Tennessee. 3 sweet 16s, an elite 8, and 7 ncaa appearances in his last 7 seasons coached.<br /><br />(for comparisons sake, Donahue won just over 50% of his games in the Ivys, and things only really took a turn when he had the League's 3 best players - Foote, Wittman, Dale)<br /><br />Pearl would do what Addazio did for football -- inject MUCH needed life into the program, be a face for the team, totally turn around the recruiting. <br /><br />bottom line - if Bates meets with Pearl and is convinced he is rehabilitated and wants to come to BC, you have gotta hire him. the Whalepants Holier than Thou losers can follow Donahue and his whistle to wherever he winds up.EL MIZhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12042895353703675136noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-70358703422577767992014-01-25T09:31:15.838-05:002014-01-25T09:31:15.838-05:00It would be insanity for Bates not to seek out and...It would be insanity for Bates not to seek out and seriously interview Pearl for the job and hear him out. Worth reading this in case you missed it: http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/23250390/which-school-with-a-vision-will-hire-bruce-pearl-next-yearNapolean Bonapartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02400468172192375595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-734039855050017092014-01-24T20:22:11.656-05:002014-01-24T20:22:11.656-05:00Legally correct. Makes a big difference. He commit...Legally correct. Makes a big difference. He committed no crimes. Just broke NCAA regulations. Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-57505659061400873122014-01-24T19:52:00.778-05:002014-01-24T19:52:00.778-05:00Bbill: pure sophistry. Bbill: pure sophistry. mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-49521570697226713302014-01-24T18:00:17.514-05:002014-01-24T18:00:17.514-05:00Joseph, at this point you're becoming a parody...Joseph, at this point you're becoming a parody. <br /><br />You state, "There was no implication of his morality only a question in the debate." <br /><br />However, previously you said "So, it seems that some really that BC should have no moral compass because others don't." <br /><br />Next you state, "Second, where do some get off saying that others have a holier than thous [sic] attitude."<br /><br />However, you previously stated "BC really failed you if you truly have no concept of right or wrong and value winning a game more than having a sense of what's really important." Also, "If you think that winning is all that matters, then too bad. Win for what? So you can boast about attending a winning school. Dos your ego really need that? Talk about shallow stuff. Mine's bigger than yours."<br /><br />You're a walking, talking contradiction Joseph.<br /><br />Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-53523842259446942902014-01-24T16:32:31.269-05:002014-01-24T16:32:31.269-05:00It's telling that a post merely speculating ab...It's telling that a post merely speculating about Pearl as the BC coach generates about ten times more comments than any other post about BC hoops these days. The guy is generating increased interest in the program already.Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02860968589818360244noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-30537634688174832992014-01-24T15:42:03.081-05:002014-01-24T15:42:03.081-05:00If you truly believe a holier-than-thou attitude w...If you truly believe a holier-than-thou attitude was not implied by your comments, go back and re-read them. With your reading glasses. And if you still don't think so, google the definition of holier-than-thou.<br /><br /><br />I'm not suggesting Pearl would be a great or even good fit at BC. Maybe he'd fall flat on his face. Maybe he'd win the ACC in year 1. All I'm saying is there is no sense in dismissing his candidacy, as you do not explicitly say but DO imply.<br /><br />Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09738249202468643946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-76956305472765932832014-01-24T15:12:23.185-05:002014-01-24T15:12:23.185-05:00john 8:7
When they persisted in asking him, he st...john 8:7<br /><br />When they persisted in asking him, he stood up straight and replied, "Whoever among you is guiltless may be the first to throw a stone at her."<br /><br />I think BC would be OK to hire a coach who sinned...Mjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04406155659656404317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-42167282200468257972014-01-24T14:59:17.725-05:002014-01-24T14:59:17.725-05:00First, there was no implication of his morality on...First, there was no implication of his morality only a question in the debate. Second, where do some get off saying that others have a holier than thous attitude. It was not said nor implied. Do you know how to argue or debate? Is it ok in your mind to question someone because of past behavior? No one said don't interview anyone. What WAS said is that winning at all costs is not what we should entertain in coaches and It as pointed out that Pearl WAS hammered by the NCAA. So don't pick nits with the "justice" crap or holier than thou comparisons. We all want what is best for BC and the students and the alums. Some of us have serious questions about how to achieve these goals. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-57227199886317905302014-01-24T14:46:44.557-05:002014-01-24T14:46:44.557-05:00Do you really believe hiring Pearl would be employ...Do you really believe hiring Pearl would be employing a "win-at-all-costs" mentality? It's not as if he doesn't know he'll be under intense scrutiny by the NCAA and the administration wherever his next stop ends up being. I would hope and expect that he's learned from his mistakes and won't be foolish enough to make them again.<br /><br />The question then becomes, can you sacrifice your "holier-than-thou" attitude and accept a coach who's made a mistake and paid dearly for it?Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09738249202468643946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-90750182974050332932014-01-24T13:28:32.849-05:002014-01-24T13:28:32.849-05:00Mod, there's is not "obstruction of justi...Mod, there's is not "obstruction of justice" because there was no crime committed! And what authorities are you talking about? There was no criminal investigation so there can be no obstruction of justice. NCAA investigators are not authorities. That's my point. Yes, there was obstruction of an NCAA investigation, but the NCAA has no police powers. The NCAA is enforcing the very inane regulations it concocts. Joseph has insinuated that Pearl is immoral because he failed to follow NCAA regulations. Really? And yes he showed terrible judgment in lying and asking others to lie for him. I guess if utilize that standard, nobody would be able qualified to coach at BC.Bravesbillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18132085833230451082noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-11350834302371111562014-01-24T11:34:10.237-05:002014-01-24T11:34:10.237-05:00It wasn't lying about a BBQ that mattered, it ...It wasn't lying about a BBQ that mattered, it was lying to the investigators regardless of the object of the lie. I do not believe in winning at all costs. I don't think that anyone here is asking for perfection. Bates and Leahy can interview whoever they can, but I hope that their judgement of employees is based on more than just the possibility of winning. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-58938248133840966192014-01-24T10:37:56.700-05:002014-01-24T10:37:56.700-05:00Recruited by coaches who were hired by the athleti...Recruited by coaches who were hired by the athletic department who were hired by the board of trustees/president. <br /><br />Look, I don't think the scandals reflect poorly on BC either or the administration/coaches/etc. Clearly I was being sarcastic. But you can't have it both ways. You say Pearl can't be hired because he lacks integrity which can damage BC but then how can we trust an administration that hires the people who recruit the kids who do drugs/shave points, etc. <br /><br />I know what I'm saying is rash and over the top. That's the point. In my opinion saying a guy can never be trusted again and doesn't deserve a second chance because he lied about a BBQ is rash and over the top. <br /><br />If there are better alternatives, I'm all for it, but right now we've got the chance to bring in a top flight, proven coach who otherwise we'd have no shot at. But he's paid the price, lost out on $10mn, had his reputation severely damaged, and has had 2 1/2 years to beat himself up over it. I'll forgive and forget. If we get burned I'll admit I was wrong. If we don't and BC succeeds, everyone wins.GP11https://www.blogger.com/profile/18114348784688324267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-20614193806412931372014-01-24T10:12:22.342-05:002014-01-24T10:12:22.342-05:00ncaa.com university-tennesee-public-infractions-r...ncaa.com university-tennesee-public-infractions-report<br /><br /><a href="http://www.ncaa.com/content/university-tennesee-public-infractions-report" rel="nofollow"> PEARL REPORT</a>mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-37842141155168374482014-01-24T10:10:47.269-05:002014-01-24T10:10:47.269-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-86630221458192146872014-01-24T09:53:50.144-05:002014-01-24T09:53:50.144-05:00I find this comment thread amazing...amazingly bad...I find this comment thread amazing...amazingly bad. <br /><br />Why do people cling to such obviously wrong and misguided notions?<br /><br />Take our man BBill. He says Pearl "committed no crime by having a BBQ so exactly how is there obstruction?" Well, no the BBQ was not the problem. Pearl lied -- badly and boldly - to investigators about the incident so they would not uncover the petty truth; he urged his staff to lie; he urged his recruit's father to lie. And he did all this over something petty and small. What would he do if it was something big he wanted to hide? Would he lie to Brad Bates face? Would he lie to Father Leahy? Would lie to BC Nation? <br /><br />So this is not, and never was about a BBQ. It is about lying to authorities to hide bad behaviour -- that is what obstruction is. Ask Richard Nixon if the cover-up can be worse than the crime.<br /><br />Now, look was GP11 and other say "BC has had point shaving scandals in both basketball and football." Yes, it is the old canard that will not die and will be miscontrued by yet another generation of superficial thinkers. Those scandals were scandals by BC players. The coach and BC admin had nothing to do with them and BC, the institution, was never charged with any malfeasance in either matter. So let's drop this bs.. makes you sound like that A**hole from ESPN who got rejected from BC and keeps misrepresenting this crap to give voice to his bitterness about BC .. . <br /><br /><b>Bottom line: Integrity counts</b>, and Pearl has too little of it to to add up to being an Eagle coach. Not happening.mod34bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18129365485893573618noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-47985967909263220382014-01-24T09:30:12.757-05:002014-01-24T09:30:12.757-05:00Then Joseph why do you care about BC sports? Why d...Then Joseph why do you care about BC sports? Why do you read and comment on this blog? What satisfaction do you get out of a program that has absolutely disintegrated?<br /><br />You play to win the game. The players are 18-22. They're adults. They're not learning life lessons any more. The coaches are paid 6-7 figures to win games. How can you think it's about anything else? <br /><br />And it's not an ego situation whatsoever. I care about BC sports because that's where I went to school. I want them to do well because watching great teams added so much to my experience at school. I want that for today's students. I want my school to be great at everything it does. <br /><br />Because Pearl screwed up at Tennessee does not mean he will again. If you want a head coach that has zero flaws and has never made a mistake, you're never going to find one. GP11https://www.blogger.com/profile/18114348784688324267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-37336273994853683372014-01-24T08:43:23.278-05:002014-01-24T08:43:23.278-05:00If you think that winning is all that matters, the...If you think that winning is all that matters, then too bad. Win for what? So you can boast about attending a winning school. Dos your ego really need that? Talk about shallow stuff. Mine's bigger than yours. Josephhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07426170247468782374noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9512562.post-19076013980359408202014-01-24T08:27:44.463-05:002014-01-24T08:27:44.463-05:00"I don't think Pearl was very successful ..."I don't think Pearl was very successful at Tennessee given they have Zero restrictions."<br /><br />??<br /><br />In 6 years he made the tournament every single year. Took his team to the Sweet 16 half the time as well. Claver2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/15415082560035841418noreply@blogger.com