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Friday, January 25, 2013

What sort of QB does Addazio need?




BC has a strong history recruiting pro-style, pocket passers. Jags recruited some dual-threat guys but Spaz reverted right back to the pocket mold when he took over. Despite his challenges, Spaz even landed two tall pocket passers for this upcoming class in Tim Boyle and Mackay Lowrie. When Addazio came on he said he was going to play to the team's strengths and build on what is here. Yet despite his proclamation and the connections he built with Boyle and Lowrie, Addazio went hard after a third QB in Michael Julian. 

Julian is an late blooming athletic kid from South Carolina. The recruiting sites categorize him as a "dual-threat" QB. He's right in line with Addazio's ideal QB based on his system at Florida and Temple. Even with the promises to the Spaz commitments, I had no problem with Addazio's decision. He needs to find the best players he can. But now that Julian has said "no" to BC, I am starting to wonder what sort of QB BC should recruit. And with the rise of the running QB in the NFL, what is a "pro-style" quarterback anymore?

A lot of the pro vs dual style is cover for race. If you look on the recruiting sites, "pro" style are predominately white, while "dual" are predominately black. For a variety of reasons, BC has been an easier sell to white, pocket passers. The guys who wanted to be the next Foley, Hasselbeck or Ryan. But that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Bordner is a white QB from Maryland, but he is probably best categorized as "dual." Codi Boek was also recruited as a "dual" threat. But the color of the skin shouldn't really mater. What should mater is the QB's ability to throw and run. The ideal QB -- the guy I want BC to get -- is someone who can do both well. 

But stepping back, I started to rethink about Addazio's need to get a third guy. Shouldn't the offense execute well as long as the QB does most things well and right? Take Brian Kelly as an example. In all his stops he's used running and throwing QBs interchangeably  The framework of the offense is the same, but the types of plays and what the QB does is different. Steve Logan was the same way at BC. We ran the same offense with Matt Ryan as we did with Chris Crane, yet with Crane we ran the ball much more. If Addazio is going to have success at BC, he should be able to win with the QBs we have. The only way it makes sense to go hard after a third QB is if he thinks Boyle and Lowrie are not ACC caliber. 

We won't know if the new guys are any good for two years. We will know how adaptable Addazio and Day are well before then because Rettig is not a "dual" guy. I hope that they can score regardless of the QB's strengths, because if not we will have a lot of square pegs trying to fit in round holes. 

12 comments:

  1. ATL, I know your intentions are good, but the stereotyping is not needed. You can make your point without stereotypes

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    pro vs dual style: . For a variety of reasons, BC has been an easier sell to pro-style pocket passers. The guys who wanted to be the next Foley, Hasselbeck or Ryan. But that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Bordner is probably best categorized as "dual." Codi Boek was also recruited as a "dual" threat. But the label pro vs dual should not matter. What should matter is the QB's ability to throw and run. The ideal QB -- the guy I want BC to get -- is someone who can do both well. 

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  2. Christian Suntrup, redshirt freshman, St. Louis Chaminade,is in the qb mix. He was actively recruited by Nebraska. He was a dual threat qb in high school. I would like to know where he fits into in the mix. If BC can't use him, then he should leave and "mine for gold" elsewhere.

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  3. Uhhh, the ultimate dual threat QB that also happened to be the best player in BC football history: Flutes. He was white. Agree about stereotypes - not needed.

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  4. Don't know if we needed a third QB or not, but... we're losing kids to the University of TOLEDO???

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  5. Has AD closed a recruit yet?

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  6. We are on a 4 year death spiral. The pressure is on addazio to turn this around fast.

    I don't think we will take 2 - 3 more pathetic years.

    I can't remember ever being pathetic for 6 or 7 years (or more).

    Syracuse is still trying to grind their way out and the same is happening to us.

    I would like to kick GDF in the crotchitola - that pigmy.

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  7. I too have a problem with your stereotypes.

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  8. On behalf of pygmies everywhere, I demand an apology.

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  9. Sorry Mod and Pygmies everywhere.

    Gene is a small person in several ways - a real runt!

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  10. I don't have a problem suggesting there may be stereotypes in the description - 'cause there may be - but how does it apply to BCs situation? Was there any black/white kid subtext from Adazzio I was missing?

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  11. This list speaks for itself with only two (2) young men of color who started at quarterback for BC since 1938:


    From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    A list of the players who have started a game at quarterback for the Boston College Eagles football team.

    Chase Rettig: 2010-
    Dave Shinskie: 2009-2010
    Dominique Davis: 2008
    Chris Crane: 2008
    Matt Ryan: 2005-2007
    Quinton Porter: 2005
    Paul Peterson: 2003-2004
    Quinton Porter: 2003
    Brian St. Pierre: 2001-2002
    Tim Hasselbeck: 1999-2000
    Scott Mutryn: 1998
    Matt Hasselbeck: 1996-1997
    Scott Mutryn: 1996
    Mark Hartsell: 1994-1995
    Glenn Foley: 1990-1993
    Willie Hicks: 1990
    Mark Kamphaus: 1989
    Willie Hicks: 1989
    Mike Power: 1988-1989
    Mark Kamphaus: 1988
    Mike Power: 1987
    Shawn Halloran: 1985-1986
    Doug Flutie: 1981-1984
    John Loughery: 1979-1980
    Jay Palazola: 1978-1979
    Ken Smith: 1976-1977
    Mike Kruczek: 1974-1975
    Gary Marangi: 1971-1973
    Frank Harris: 1968-1970
    Joe DiVito: 1966-1967
    Ed Foley: 1964-1965
    Larry Marzetti: 1964
    Jack Concannon: 1962-1963
    George VanCott: 1961
    John Amabile & George VanCott: 1959-1960
    Don Allard: 1957-1958
    Bill Donlan: 1955-1956
    Jim Kane: 1951-1954
    Dick McBride:1950
    Butch Songin: 1947-1949
    Don Panciera: 1946
    Franny Curtis and Mike Ameen: 1945
    Eddie Doherty: 1941-1943
    Charlie O'Rourke: 1938-1940

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