Thursday, May 24, 2012

ACC will do anything to keep FSU

Earlier I said that the only thing that could save the ACC was ESPN. When the Big XII was set to fall apart, ESPN came in and appeased Texas and held the coalition together. It doesn't appear like they will do the same for Florida State and the ACC. I think this is shortsighted on their part, but I don't think anyone in Bristol or Tallahassee seems to care. Now with the Plus+1 format back in play power is definitely consolidating. As I said before, if Florida State leaves it would set off a chain reaction and the ACC would splinter. I don't think most ACC members wants that. I don't even know if Florida State wants that. But money and survival trump all. However, the ACC can save the conference and keep Florida State. But they need to act quickly and pull every lever possible.


Uneven revenue sharing
The other teams are going to have to pay Florida State to stick around. However unfair it might seem, that is the reality. I am sure they will create calculations to rationalize the new splits, but at the end of the day FSU is going to demand the biggest share of the pie. And that is going to come from schools like Wake, Pitt BC and Syracuse. I don't like the idea and think it is a slippery slope, but I know that it is on the table. It is the price the smaller schools will pay to have a seat in a power conference. (And once FSU pulls that off, look for the power players in the other conferences to do the same. How long do you think Ohio State wants to split their money evenly with Iowa? etc.)

Turn the Orange Bowl into an elite Bowl
With the Plus+1 back on the table and the four power conferences paired off, congressional oversight might rear its ugly head again. That means that the Big Boys will need to throw a bone to the Have Nots. The Orange Bowl is also in danger of becoming a second tier bowl. If the ACC and the Orange Bowl want to stay relevant they need to find an opponent who provides relevancy. They should commit to taking the highest ranked at large team every year to play the ACC Champ. In some years that might be a Boise. In others the second place team from the Big Ten or SEC. But whoever it is needs to provide a ratings boost to the ACC Champion. In this scenario an 11-1 Florida State team might play a 11-1 LSU team or a 12-0 Boise State. The winner of that game would probably jump a two-loss team that might win from the Rose or Champions Bowl.


Play the Basketball card
With new conference shift, the big schools are closer and closer to leaving the NCAA. That would mean huge money deals. While basketball is secondary, the new power schools will want a basketball tournament. ESPN would want to broadcast that tournament and have let it be known that they would want Duke, UNC and Syracuse part of that tournament. FSU might cringe at basketball reasserting itself, but will the Noles really care as long as they have the money and access they want.

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13 Comments:

At 2:24 PM, Blogger chicagofire1871 said...

This might keep FSU in the near term, but doesn't it just create a situation that almost killed the Big 12 last year? I say, try to keep FSU (and Clemson) but if they are hell bent on leaving, so be it.

The prospect of attracting ND still exits even without those schools. What are the top reasons ND would consider the ACC? Academic prestige, existing rivalries and access to northeast, southeast and Florida. Losing FSU and Clemson doesn't alter any of that.

 
At 2:41 PM, Blogger NEDofSavinHill said...

The nightmare scenario for the ACC is Fox deciding it wants to dominate college sports. It already has the Pac 12. If it takes the Big 12 exclusively it could dictate an expansion of 6 teams (FSU,Clemson, Miami GT, VT and UVA.). Break the Big 12 into 2 divisions. The west with the 8 teams from last years conference( minus A&M and Mizzou) and the east with the 6 ex ACC teams plus TCU and WVU. That new Big 12 would have 8 regular top 25 twams and would easily be the top conference in the land, far better than the SEC or Big 10. It comes down to whether the network wants to spend the money. 2. All ACC schools would want to exit the paltry ESPN deal. If the above were to happen Gdf would have to petition UConn for re admittance to the Big East. What goes around comes around

 
At 3:28 PM, Blogger Knucklehead said...

A possible way to fix the issue is to bring in Notre Dame and allow them to keep their TV deals with NBC and play them a share of the ACC revenue from ESPN. I would pay Notre Dame and Florida State equal shares of the ESPN money but their shares would be more than every other school in the league. I would put FSU and Notre Dame in opposite divisions of the conference. This way when the playoff is expanded to include Conference Champions then they can play each other for the spot.

Some people may fear that Clemson or Virgina Tech would leave under this scenario. Inregards to Clemson, I would not fight to keep them if they leave. In regards to Virginia Tech, I think they have a deal with UVA and woukld leave only if UVA left. It would take a total demolition of the ACC for Virgina to leave. So VT is secure.

IF the ACC were to blow up I think the Big 10 would gladly take Boston College, Maryland, Pitt, and Syracuse. UCONN would NEVER be considered.

 
At 4:10 PM, Blogger Lenny Sienko said...

We are fortunate to have had such a solid grounding in Thomistic thought at BC. How else could we consider how many FSU's could dance on the head of a pin?

I think I prefer the endless negativity of Spaz and GDF bashing to the drip-drip-drip water torture of conference realignment.

 
At 10:12 PM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

I am with you, Lenny.

 
At 10:34 PM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

Having said that, here's my .02

We are not the SEC, PAC 12, Big 10(12) or Big 12 (10) - never were, never will be.

What are we? We are East Coast football, so let's be what we are.

Example - Bring on the "Big ACC" - two divisions of 12 teams - line them up any way you want. Lock up the entire East Coast and some additional teams.

In addition to Divisional Games within the Big ACC - there can be an inter-Division game per year, or something interesting like that.

Beef up what we have - if we can't entice Penn State back, prop up the Philadelphia team - yes Temple. We have Boston, NY, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Washington, DC, Research Triangle, Atlanta, Miami and other nearby great schools.

To me, the entire East Coast in one league of two divisions would shut up all these guys.

Let's be ourselves, and upgrade the entire area from New England and NY to Florida - that's who we are, for crying out loud.

Penn State
Syracuse
BC
Army
UCONN
Rutgers
Pittsburgh
VT
Virginia
Navy
Maryland
East Carolina

UNC
Duke
Georgia Tech
NC State
Wake Forest
Miami
Florida State
Louisville
Cincinnati
Clemson
Notre Dame
USF

 
At 11:09 PM, Blogger eagleboston said...

Why on earth would Penn State leave the Big Ten?

 
At 11:20 PM, Blogger Knucklehead said...

Sorry to be negative here Biggie.

The only way this type of alignment works is if there are 16-32 teams in a football tournament and no bowls. Otherwise the schedule and the bowls would be completely out of whack.

I think utlimately there will be three-four conferences an east, central(or north and south) and a west. If this happens without a huge football tournament(32 teams) then the U.S Senate will have to break up the conferences and make everyone an independent.

At some point, to avoid the situation where everyone is an independent, someone will have to freeze conference realignment. Possibly Barack, based on his previous involvment and love for BB tournament, but he seems over extended right now:
http://www.boston.com/politicalintelligence/2012/05/24/president-obama-burning-midnight-oil-raises-money-for-reelection-campaign/GtZsdQ6jSAPL9k5ivcz9BJ/story.html?p1=Well_Politics_links

 
At 11:23 PM, Blogger Knucklehead said...

The NCAA should create a by law where they cap the number of teams in a condference for competitive purposes.

Title Nine was a huge step in college sports for women. So there is precident for something of the nature I am suggesting.

 
At 8:49 AM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

You're right, eagleboston - just wishful thinking on my part.

Penn State could have been thje flagship of the East, but for those bird brains in Providence.

 
At 7:11 PM, Blogger Scoop said...

BJK has a great idea. I completely agree with his sentiments, PSU notwithstanding.

As for allowing ND & FSU to receive a greater share of the pie to keep them as a partner, I also suggest in every contest every school spot them 14 points in football; 20 pts in basketball; 10 runs in baseball; 5 goals in lacrosse; 3 goals in soccer; 50 yds in every track meet race; a set in tennis and they only play home games, no road games for them. Also, ND & FSU can play as many players as they want and the rules only apply to their opponents. That way, the ACC will always have those two schools in championships and ESPN will always get the ratings and ad revenue it wants.

If ND & FSU don't like being equal partners, screw 'em. I'm fed up with their never-ending, all-encompassing sense of entitlement. And if the ACC collapses, it's fine with me.

 
At 7:12 PM, Blogger Scoop said...

BJK has a great idea. I completely agree with his sentiments, PSU notwithstanding.

As for allowing ND & FSU to receive a greater share of the pie to keep them as a partner, I also suggest in every contest every school spot them 14 points in football; 20 pts in basketball; 10 runs in baseball; 5 goals in lacrosse; 3 goals in soccer; 50 yds in every track meet race; a set in tennis and they only play home games, no road games for them. Also, ND & FSU can play as many players as they want and the rules only apply to their opponents. That way, the ACC will always have those two schools in championships and ESPN will always get the ratings and ad revenue it wants.

If ND & FSU don't like being equal partners, screw 'em. I'm fed up with their never-ending, all-encompassing sense of entitlement. And if the ACC collapses, it's fine with me.

 
At 7:50 AM, Blogger Bravesbill said...

Knuckle--Doesn't the US Government already have enough power as it is? And how successful has it been with that power? Do we really want it meddling in the NCAA's affairs?

 

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