Friday, January 25, 2013

What sort of QB does Addazio need?




BC has a strong history recruiting pro-style, pocket passers. Jags recruited some dual-threat guys but Spaz reverted right back to the pocket mold when he took over. Despite his challenges, Spaz even landed two tall pocket passers for this upcoming class in Tim Boyle and Mackay Lowrie. When Addazio came on he said he was going to play to the team's strengths and build on what is here. Yet despite his proclamation and the connections he built with Boyle and Lowrie, Addazio went hard after a third QB in Michael Julian. 

Julian is an late blooming athletic kid from South Carolina. The recruiting sites categorize him as a "dual-threat" QB. He's right in line with Addazio's ideal QB based on his system at Florida and Temple. Even with the promises to the Spaz commitments, I had no problem with Addazio's decision. He needs to find the best players he can. But now that Julian has said "no" to BC, I am starting to wonder what sort of QB BC should recruit. And with the rise of the running QB in the NFL, what is a "pro-style" quarterback anymore?

A lot of the pro vs dual style is cover for race. If you look on the recruiting sites, "pro" style are predominately white, while "dual" are predominately black. For a variety of reasons, BC has been an easier sell to white, pocket passers. The guys who wanted to be the next Foley, Hasselbeck or Ryan. But that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Bordner is a white QB from Maryland, but he is probably best categorized as "dual." Codi Boek was also recruited as a "dual" threat. But the color of the skin shouldn't really mater. What should mater is the QB's ability to throw and run. The ideal QB -- the guy I want BC to get -- is someone who can do both well. 

But stepping back, I started to rethink about Addazio's need to get a third guy. Shouldn't the offense execute well as long as the QB does most things well and right? Take Brian Kelly as an example. In all his stops he's used running and throwing QBs interchangeably  The framework of the offense is the same, but the types of plays and what the QB does is different. Steve Logan was the same way at BC. We ran the same offense with Matt Ryan as we did with Chris Crane, yet with Crane we ran the ball much more. If Addazio is going to have success at BC, he should be able to win with the QBs we have. The only way it makes sense to go hard after a third QB is if he thinks Boyle and Lowrie are not ACC caliber. 

We won't know if the new guys are any good for two years. We will know how adaptable Addazio and Day are well before then because Rettig is not a "dual" guy. I hope that they can score regardless of the QB's strengths, because if not we will have a lot of square pegs trying to fit in round holes. 

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12 Comments:

At 7:58 PM, Blogger mod34b said...

ATL, I know your intentions are good, but the stereotyping is not needed. You can make your point without stereotypes

Like this:

pro vs dual style: . For a variety of reasons, BC has been an easier sell to pro-style pocket passers. The guys who wanted to be the next Foley, Hasselbeck or Ryan. But that doesn't mean that there aren't exceptions. Bordner is probably best categorized as "dual." Codi Boek was also recruited as a "dual" threat. But the label pro vs dual should not matter. What should matter is the QB's ability to throw and run. The ideal QB -- the guy I want BC to get -- is someone who can do both well. 

 
At 8:09 PM, Blogger JBQ said...

Christian Suntrup, redshirt freshman, St. Louis Chaminade,is in the qb mix. He was actively recruited by Nebraska. He was a dual threat qb in high school. I would like to know where he fits into in the mix. If BC can't use him, then he should leave and "mine for gold" elsewhere.

 
At 8:26 PM, Blogger Italian Eagle said...

Uhhh, the ultimate dual threat QB that also happened to be the best player in BC football history: Flutes. He was white. Agree about stereotypes - not needed.

 
At 8:30 PM, Blogger dixieagle said...

Don't know if we needed a third QB or not, but... we're losing kids to the University of TOLEDO???

 
At 9:45 PM, Blogger nceaglefan said...

Has AD closed a recruit yet?

 
At 10:48 PM, Blogger John said...

We are on a 4 year death spiral. The pressure is on addazio to turn this around fast.

I don't think we will take 2 - 3 more pathetic years.

I can't remember ever being pathetic for 6 or 7 years (or more).

Syracuse is still trying to grind their way out and the same is happening to us.

I would like to kick GDF in the crotchitola - that pigmy.

I

 
At 11:00 PM, Blogger Matt said...

I too have a problem with your stereotypes.

 
At 10:19 AM, Blogger mod10aeagle said...

On behalf of pygmies everywhere, I demand an apology.

 
At 10:51 AM, Blogger John said...

Sorry Mod and Pygmies everywhere.

Gene is a small person in several ways - a real runt!

 
At 4:04 PM, Blogger blist said...

I don't have a problem suggesting there may be stereotypes in the description - 'cause there may be - but how does it apply to BCs situation? Was there any black/white kid subtext from Adazzio I was missing?

 
At 5:07 PM, Blogger Lenny Sienko said...

This list speaks for itself with only two (2) young men of color who started at quarterback for BC since 1938:


From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
A list of the players who have started a game at quarterback for the Boston College Eagles football team.

Chase Rettig: 2010-
Dave Shinskie: 2009-2010
Dominique Davis: 2008
Chris Crane: 2008
Matt Ryan: 2005-2007
Quinton Porter: 2005
Paul Peterson: 2003-2004
Quinton Porter: 2003
Brian St. Pierre: 2001-2002
Tim Hasselbeck: 1999-2000
Scott Mutryn: 1998
Matt Hasselbeck: 1996-1997
Scott Mutryn: 1996
Mark Hartsell: 1994-1995
Glenn Foley: 1990-1993
Willie Hicks: 1990
Mark Kamphaus: 1989
Willie Hicks: 1989
Mike Power: 1988-1989
Mark Kamphaus: 1988
Mike Power: 1987
Shawn Halloran: 1985-1986
Doug Flutie: 1981-1984
John Loughery: 1979-1980
Jay Palazola: 1978-1979
Ken Smith: 1976-1977
Mike Kruczek: 1974-1975
Gary Marangi: 1971-1973
Frank Harris: 1968-1970
Joe DiVito: 1966-1967
Ed Foley: 1964-1965
Larry Marzetti: 1964
Jack Concannon: 1962-1963
George VanCott: 1961
John Amabile & George VanCott: 1959-1960
Don Allard: 1957-1958
Bill Donlan: 1955-1956
Jim Kane: 1951-1954
Dick McBride:1950
Butch Songin: 1947-1949
Don Panciera: 1946
Franny Curtis and Mike Ameen: 1945
Eddie Doherty: 1941-1943
Charlie O'Rourke: 1938-1940

 
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