Tuesday, November 22, 2016

Looks like a five win BC team could go bowling

This has been percolating for a while, but as pundits began updating their bowl projections, many added BC this week. The NCAA has too many bowls and not enough teams with .500 or better records. That means that teams with just five wins can be invited to a postseason game. Those invites are determined by APR. Since BC's APR remains strong, our Eagles will be one of the first five win teams invited. (That might be the first time APR has ever done anything for BC.)

BC can simplify things by just winning the Wake game. That sixth win would guarantee a bowl game. It would also stop some of the media snickering.

Going to a bowl with a losing record seems like a hollow accomplishment, but there are some residual benefits. There is the extra practices, the last trip for the seniors and the chance to end the season on a positive note.

I don't like how expansive bowl season has become, but BC would be stupid to turn down an extra game. And as much as I mock these weird bowls, I will certainly watch.

42 comments:

BC Eagle in Baltimore said...

What bowl? St. Petersburg?

Bravesbill said...

Nope, never going to watch. Win or lose, I'll pretend the game never happened.

BC Eagle in Baltimore said...

What bowl? St. Petersburg?

bceagle91 said...

What are there, 128 teams in the FBS? And nearly 2/3 go bowling? No wonder why they'll take some 5-7 teams. What a joke. Many schools lose money on the bowls because they have to buy so many tickets that they can't re-sell. Attendance is atrocious. We'll see about the ratings.

EL MIZ said...

ATL - is it clear we would make money going to a bowl game? i recall reading that out of pocket expenses often put schools in the red even though they received a certain fee for showing up and playing - are we guaranteed a bowl would be a money maker?

other than friends and family and alumni in the area, i cannot imagine more than a couple dozen BC fans deciding to purchase tickets to go to the bowl game.

why are there so many bowl games? is this just ESPN pushing for more TV inventory - who watches the vast majority of this stuff?

MOD - can you post your list of worst losses ever? according to Mod's research i believe 4 of the 10 wort losses in BC history are on Daz's watch. would be fun to see him answer that question while he petulantly eats his french fries. 4 of the 10 worst losses, and i believe 2 of which were this year, and we are going bowling, truly laughable.

Georgia Eagle said...

I absolutely will not watch a 5-7 team in a bowl. Absolute disgrace. ESPECIALLY this team.

TGS said...

BC should show some balls and refuse an invite, despite KHead's assinine assertion that a handful of extra practices under a lame duck coach will be critical to the longtime direction of the program.
For once live up to the motto, Ever to Excel.

Guido said...

@5-7 , I would agree with TGS. I would politely say thanks , but our performance does not warrant post season recognition. That action might also "Go a long way" in shaping future bowl eligibility requirements and likewise the number of bowl games. Let Boston College be a trend setter and live up to the mantra -- "EVER TO EXCEL".

ATL_eagle said...

The ACC pools its bowl money so BC would come out ahead. If it is the St. Pete Bowl it would be relatively cheap since BC would probably keep the trip short because it is Dec 26.

Georgia Eagle said...

And an empty stadium. Get a grip ATL.

BCballer said...

Jesus, Mary, and Joseph...at 5-7 we should be playing someone like Bishop Feehan on Thanksgiving Day, not be playing in some unwatchable bowl game.

Come to think of it, a D-line of Jesus, Mary, and Joseph would produce a Jon Hilliman stat line of 7 carries-9 yards. In other words, the usual...

knucklehead said...

TGS,
You are conflating the practices with the long term ramifications. The practices are good for the short term. Not going to a bowl would be negative for the program long term because, to say it again, prospective AD's, HC's and players would look at that as a negative. The school is going to have enough trouble hiring good people as it is.

It is a ridiculous argument because IF they get a bowl invite they are going to accept it. There is no positive for anyone if they decline a bowl.

People are adamantly not going to watch them play in a bowl but they are going to go onto a blog and bitch about the program? Give me a fucking break. That is about as pathetic as the offense-line, Justin Fry and Steve Addazio.

TGS said...

Here is the Daz attempting to brag about going to three crap bowls in four years (remember, 2/3s of FBS teams go to bowl games):

COACH ADDAZIO: Well, you know, I think this: I think it speaks to the fact that we took over a program that when I came here we knew this would be up to a five-year rebuild. If we can do that, that sets a marker for getting there, you know, three out of four years. So that's important.

Ever to excel now means being in the top 67th percentile.

Georgia Eagle said...

TGS is rational after all. Knucklehead, show some pride and admit going to a bowl with a 5-7 record is a total joke and beneath contempt.

knucklehead said...

The stuttering and stammering and discussion about up to 5 year turnaround(at the end of a bad year 4) is bragging?

I don't see it. He is just saying a bowl would be a positive thing.

knucklehead said...

It is not prideful to "tap out" and say "no" to an opportunity to improve yourself. It is defeatist. How can you excel if you don't even compete?

Totally pathetic attitude.



TGS said...

Every time KHead denies he is a Daz suck up, he posts something like above that proves he is indeed the President of the "Daz needs five more years club".

knucklehead said...

TGS,
You eat ham on Thanksgiving.

Georgia Eagle said...

Lol. I love you guys. Much better than TV.

TGS said...

I actually suggested ham the other day, but got shot down.

Georgia Eagle said...

Ham? Come on T, you are a good red blooded American Republican boy. Eat Turkey, son.

mod34b said...

knuckleDaz at it again..

TGS said...

ESPN – The NCAA has ordered the Notre Dame Fighting Irish to vacate all the wins from their 2012 and 2013 football seasons in an academic misconduct case, it was announced Tuesday.

TGS said...

"Cheat Like A Champion Today"

mod34b said...

When is the NCAA dropping hammer on UNC for fake, fraudulent courses for athletes.. or is that swept under the rug?

ND penalty seems too harsh

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nceaglefan said...

I really hope they lose against Wake,I hate to say it, but it is only way we get rid of this dueche bag. We have to fire him this year, there are going to be some attractive candidates available this year. I would love to see them go after Charlie Strong, but there are other great candidates as well. Nobody in the fan base wants another year with this clown.

1661_Comm said...

Ridiculous ATL and Knucklehead. It's not defeatist to set standards and hold oneself accountable for the results attained, which is what BC would be doing if they rejected a bowl bid this year.

Defeatist is DAZ's mentality about playing top ACC teams...basically stating that there is not a chance in hell that BC could win against those elite teams.

Knucklehead said...

What he says there about the upper echelon teams is realistic - although stupid and not what a good coach would say. However, penalizing your school, your program, hindering your ability to hire good people and recruit good players in the future is absurd and takes defeatist to an entirely new level.

Not accepting a bowl invitation, in this case, is the definition of defeatist. Frankly it is beyond defeatist it is negligent.

bceagle93 said...

We have a hard enough time getting people to come to campus to watch them play Clemson. What alumni is going to pay to see a 5-7 team play an equally bad team? You could have the game in Foxboro and offer every BC ticket holder one free beer and I still think we would have a hard time fulfilling our allotment.

Bye Felicia. ESPN awaits you and your dudeness.

TC for AD and HC in 2017.

1661_Comm said...

I do not agree at all that it will hinder recruiting players or coaches. Top reason to draw players is the school itself, and the coaching staff. A lesser tier bowl game in Topeka or Detroit is not going to excite the players, and I suspect that most players would prefer not to have to spend any more time with DAZ until the Spring (or hopefully, a new coach).

For a prospective coach, it would be easy to understand that a team that had a non-competitive team in conference play, with historic loss margins would not accept a bid. Look at their resume this year; BC's 5-7 record is not the same as an SEC team's 5-7 record.

I would feel differently if we played competitively in league play. It's not just the record, it's the level of the play of this year's team, and their wins, except one, were against weak teams.

Knucklehead said...

The school isn't changing and the coaching staff isn't changing. So go to the bowl and use the practice time. There are no positives long term to declining a bowl bid.

Danny Boy said...

Of course its disappointing to go to a bowl game after going 5-7. But its cutting off your nose to spite your face to turn down the invite. All our peers will be going to bowls, they'll be practicing, getting better. We're offered a chance cut into that advantage a little. Sure, we know that Daz won't take as much advantage of that as other coaches may, but any practice is better than no practice. Any time in the weight room for our underclassmen is good time spent. Hell, any time they get traveling and bonding and building rapport helps us next year.

To say the kids won't be excited seems like a bit of a leap. Its a chance to play more football, prove that they're better than their record. And don't forget the bowl game swag bags.

Bowl game invites aren't the same metric they once were. Lets not let outdated thinking get in the way. With the majority of D1 programs playing in a bowl game, NOT playing in one is more of an indictment than playing in one with a bad record.

mod34b said...

With the ACC sharing bowl revenue, I am sure the ACC has the contractual right to require BC to go out and earn the bowl money

That is to say, I'd bet BC can't turn down the bowl even if they wanted to.

Hario said...

I wouldnt be proud of going to a bowl game at 5-7 at all and it def shouldnt in anyway be used to judge Daz job in a positive way

That being said -- I say no net positives for rejecting the bowl game if invited? rejecting it isnt going to impact Daz staying or going. i have no idea what the upside would be?

Hario said...

twitter reporting daz is back next year regardless of result on satruday -- thats freaking pathetic.

just get rid of sports program.

mod34b said...

hario.... i saw heights guy sully reporting that.... that blows... just a sad clown face school sometimes.... they seem to luv to sit in their own shit...... afraid to try.. BC could not send out a message of L-O-S-E-R S-C-H-O-O-L any louder than giving Daz a free pass even he goes 1-7 in ACC and loses to every program with a winning record and only beat teams with losing records.. not to mention gets embarrassingly mangled by so-called 'elite teams'

Fuck.......

nceaglefan said...

Can we all just get participation medals and call it a season, I will bring the juice boxes and snacks as well!

Bravesbill said...

Don't forget the oranges for halftime.

Napolean Bonaparte said...

I wonder if there is a bowl game called the Pathetic Bowl?

CT said...

Guess those extra practices never raised that TOB ceiling too much.

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