Monday, January 21, 2008

Good take on Cherilus' draft prospects and other links

This is a pretty fair evaluation of Gosder Cherilus. Given how inconsistent he was this past season I still think he'll slip into the second round. But what do I know?

Saturday night the hockey team pulled off a tie in a game BU dominated. Any moral victory was ruined with the news that Brock Bradford broke his arm for the second time this season and is done for the year.

The women's basketball team keeps improving after last year's rough season. Sunday they beat Wake Forest to improve their ACC record to 3-2.

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At 1:12 PM, Blogger Jim said...

since Alston-Brighton and BC have ruined Scout for those of us unwilling to pay, what are the odds of you providing up to date recruiting coverage, especially at a critical time like this?

At 2:54 PM, Blogger ATL_eagle said...


I just dip my toes in recruiting news. I'll link to any free coverage and provide my two cents when signing day comes.

At 5:01 PM, Blogger BCNorCal07 said...

Here's someone hoping that Gos slips into the second round. I think he'd be perfect in San Francisco, but that's just a 'Niners homer talking. I think the perfect situation for Gos would be to go to a team where he would have a chance right away at right tackle. This year gave me doubts about his ability on the left, but he had been a beast on the right before.

At 9:17 AM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

I agree that Gos is much more effective on the right side. What position did he play 3 seasons ago?

Could we have Ryan, Cherilus and Tribble drafted in the 1st Round?

How abour Silva, Dunbar and Callender? Have we ever in our history had 6 players drafted?

At 9:32 AM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

I guess he played right tackle next to James Marten.

At 11:03 AM, Blogger ATL_eagle said...

Jack, Marten was always on the Left. First as G then as T. Gos was always at RT. Beekman was RG.

At 2:29 PM, Blogger Eagle in Brighton said...

Loss of Bradford is a shame.

At 6:17 PM, Blogger ORDEagle said...

Interesting comments on about Ryan, Cherilus and Tribble at the Senior Bowl - none of it positive.

At 6:19 PM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

Thanks Bill - how could I forget Beekman? I was thinking that Marten and Trueblood played opposite sides of the line.


Pretty good bunch right there!

Bradford's injury is a shame - he could probably use some email encouragement.

At 6:41 PM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

Hello Ordeagle:

Cherilus and Tribble will have to play well in the game.

Concerning Ryan. I mentioned a few threads ago that I personally thought he would hurt himself by not playing - I do not like his agent for this reason. Furthermore, if Condon advises Matt to hold out on his contract negotiations once he is drafted - wherever that is in the 1st round - much of the goodwill he has built up character-wise will go out the window. I will be very disappointed if this happens.

Some of these writers seem to have an ax to grind, also. I seem to remember that Silva took some hits in terms of his reviews prior to the East-West Shrine Game. I didn't see the 2nd half, but I'm told he was flying all over the field, and the announcers were very praiseworthy in their comments about him.

Obviously, I hope SI is wrong about our players. Let's go Matt - maneuver around this potential minefield - it's your life, not your agent's.

At 8:13 PM, Blogger Nick P. said...

I'm not that concerned about what the scouts, or SI, say about Ryan's draft stock. He's a solid QB that should transition to the pro game quite well given the offense he's played in at BC.

Personally, I'd like to see him go high (i.e. 1st round), but not first overall and perhaps not even the first QB chosen. The expectations are always irrationally high for the first overall pick and that pick disappoints more often than not. In other words, I would rather see Ryan overachieve than underachieve.

As for his agent, though, I'm with you BJK, Ryan shouldn't let his agent make decisions that are only in the best intestest of Tom Condon.

At 10:14 PM, Blogger BCNorCal07 said...

If you're talking about that great Trueblood/Marten/Beekman/Cherilus unit of a few seasons ago, don't forget the man in the middle. Pat Ross was actually the first BC student I met when I came to freshman orientation. I had flown in from San Francisco the night before orientation and was by myself in a suite in Vandy. PRoss came over and talked with me and then invited me back to his suite for pizza. I hung out with him and the other Orientation Leaders until 3 in the morning. What a cool way to get welcomed to BC.

At 12:10 AM, Blogger ORDEagle said...

I think we have all seen the flaws in Trillbe and Cherilus through the year and they are showing up in practice. My understanding is that all of the coaches and personnel people are long gone by game time. They are there to watch the drills and the one-one-one performances. That being said - there is something about being a "gamer" and I am sure Silva meets that criteria.

As far as Ryan - Condon is a top notch agent and knows what he is doing. He is a BC guy, in the Varsity Hall of Fame and represents Peyton Manning among others (Kiwi). He probably has a pretty good handle on where Ryan is going an to whom. As a result, there is probably no upside and only downside. If nothing else, everyone in the NFL knows it's a business and very few contract related things are taken personally. I am sure Matt will do the combine interviews and wonderlich test but no way he throws, runs or lifts other than at the BC Pro day. He's negotiating from a position of strength.

At 11:33 AM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

Hello Ordeagle:

I think you are right in your assessments. I am just afraid that this has the potential to turn into a Brady Quinn deal. I know that Condon is BC, is in the Hall of Fame and a great agent.

I would hate to see a hold-out situation and all of Matt's goodwill take a beating - that's all. This is my personal opinion. I know it's a business, etc. I'm hoping Matt can get through this process and start off on the right foot with his new team and new fans. He will need to get into the playbook and practice/study mode on Day One. My humble opinion.

As for Brady Quinn and Cleveland - he may get his chance next year, and he may not. I wish Matt a better entry into the pro arena. He could actually start right away for his new team.

At 11:40 AM, Blogger Big Jack Krack said...

Hello BCNorCal07:

Shame on me for omitting Ross - this wasn't done on purpose, and I knew right after my post I should have done so.

Pat Ross did a great job for BC and he was also a fine representative of our school as far as I can see.


If we had those guys in 2007, we would have won the National Championship!

One final note - I was at the Clemson game in 2005, and our OL was awesome on a 95 degree day. These are the type of guys I would love to meet, and I wish them the best in their professional careers in football - and after.


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