Tuesday, June 28, 2011

How big should this recruiting class be?

With BC picking up two more recruits, many are wondering how many spots are left. Consensus is this will be a small class. But how small? Will BC only sign 14 or will they push the limit and get to 20 or more?

In his second year Jags took a huge class. TOB was much more conservative. Spaz has signed smaller classes so far. I tend to support signing bigger classes. When you push your total signees, you slightly increase the upside of the class. The risk is that you might over sign and force out a deserving 5th year player. But our history of attrition (whether through injury or "fits") is fairly predictable. That is why I doubt we will ever have a class of only 14 guys.

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19 Comments:

At 7:53 AM, Blogger Erik said...

Counter point to attrition, we consistently get a walk-on or two who earn their way to scholarship.

I think you always have room for a 4-star or 5-star recruit, but if you've got 15 signees and you've addressed your needs then there's no need to take flyers just for the heck of it. A schollie must cost the school $220,000 when all is said and done.

I guess it is all gut feel because every situation is different.

 
At 8:39 AM, Blogger Adidaspete said...

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=6708649

We should've picked up Russell Wilson! Would've been a nice karma slap to TOB for putting the kid in such a tough position.

 
At 8:43 AM, Blogger blist said...

We couldn't have gotten Wilson because the ACC, like most conferences, forbid transfer between the schools. That's why we didn't get Greg Paulus when we needed a QB, because even though he went thru his bball eligibility at Duke, he wasn't allowed to go within the ACC to play football. Such deals seem illegal to me, but I'm not a lawyer. Still seems really unfair to the kids, though.

 
At 9:55 AM, Blogger eagle1331 said...

Blist - It's not the ACC that forbids transfers between schools, it is the schools themselves. When they release a student from a scholarship, they can restrict where he can sign. They tend to restrict in-conference teams, ones on their schedule, and ones that they compete in recruiting with. Paulus could have come to BC, but his transfer without having to sit a year out was based on "Duke not having his Post-Grad program"...

 
At 1:15 PM, Blogger mod34b said...

Kiss of Death from ESPN and HD:


Eric (Trenton, NJ)

Aside from the early favorite like Va tech, Clemson, and FSU what are some middle of the road teams that may have a shot at winning the ACC?

Heather Dinich (1:19 PM)


Boston College

 
At 1:25 PM, Blogger eagleboston said...

Have any of you been reading about North Carolina and the parking ticket fiasco?

"North Carolina has identified eight football players who accumulated 317 parking tickets that were uncovered in documents requested by media outlets covering the ongoing NCAA probe.

The school released a chart Friday that links those players’ names to their license plate numbers on vehicles that included a Land Rover, BMW and an Acura."

Forget the parking tickets. They should investigate how a college student managed to own a Rover, BMW or an Acura. I think they should vacate their wins over us in '08 and '09.

 
At 7:04 PM, Blogger NEDofSavinHill said...

So far so good on recruiting. Offensive linemen are the strength of BC's team.
On another note: 3 BC players make the NFL top 100, and it looks like these will be final results by conference. Tie for fifth with seven players is the big east and big 12. In fourth is the pac 10 with nine players. The "greatest conference ever, the SEC" is in third with 13 players. The Big 10 is second with 14. And the "very weak ACC" has 22 players in the NFL top 100. Do you think HD or Blaudshaun will ever mention this fact. These figures irrefutably prove that the ACC has the best players.

 
At 7:51 PM, Blogger blist said...

Thanks Eagle1331. It does not seem right that a school and block a kid of transferring to another school all for one year scholarship (since four year scholies aren't guaranteed) - doesn't that show what a farce the student athlete idea is among schools?
That said, I guess Paulus could have elected to go the Irish Studies route...

 
At 7:51 PM, Blogger blist said...

Oops I ment "can block a kid"

 
At 7:56 PM, Blogger Dan said...

Couldn't agree with you more Eagleboston. I remember watching an ESPN special on Alabama preparing to defend their national title last year and being quite surprised to see McElroy driving to and from practice in a Land Rover and pulling into a players' lot filled with flashy cars.

 
At 3:17 PM, Blogger CT said...

That 7:04pm post is hilarious.

The ACC's BCS record is embarrassing (2-11, 0 at-large bids). The SEC is 7-0 in NC games alone and 15-6 overall. All it proves is that the state of Florida produces elite talent. Thank you FSU and Miami. It also demonstrates that there are much better coaches in the SEC.

 
At 4:01 PM, Blogger Snuffy said...

CT, Good call. As Southern Boyz, we know SEC is king.

 
At 8:38 PM, Blogger Jimmy said...

hey jerks ct and snuffy. get the bleep out of here with this sec bs. . nobody wants to read your wannabe crap. no one cares about da sec here

 
At 10:03 AM, Blogger NEDofSavinHill said...

CT is partially right. But less than half of the ACC's 22 NFL top 100 players "come from" Florida; the majority are NOT from the Sunshine State. Here are the ACC non-Floridians in NFL top 100. Raji, Ryan, Snee, Vick, Peppers, Jonson, Williams, Wilson, Saturday, Ferguson, Wayne and Reed. Wayne and Reed played at Miami, but they are from Louisiana.

 
At 10:19 AM, Blogger NEDofSavinHill said...

ACC is four wins, zero losses versus the SEC in the last four bowl games. ACC has six wins against five losses in their last eleven games. Once again, considering the ACC player in the top 100 NFL players is almost twice what the SEC has, you can make convincing argument that today the ACC is a more talented league.

 
At 10:37 AM, Blogger Jimmy said...

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At 10:47 AM, Blogger Jimmy said...

Ned -- you ever try to persuade a Red Sox fan about something good about the Yankees? Nothing gets through. Like talking to a wall.

CT is that kinda guy, but even worse: he is a wannabe SEC fan.

 
At 11:31 AM, Blogger NEDofSavinHill said...

In my list of top 100 NFL ACC players not from Florida, I left out Philip Rivers of NC State, who was born in Alabama. So the total is 22 ACC players in NFL top 100; of these, 13 non-Floridians from the ACC made the NFL top 100. The 13 ACC non-Floridians match the total NFL top 100 from the SEC.

 
At 5:43 PM, Blogger CT said...

The ACC is 20-33 vs. the SEC since expansion in '05.

Classic example of someone who uses a small sample size to prove a point. And who doesn't watch enough football. The proof is in the pudding. They're not my numbers. Five straight NC's sorta put this argument to rest, don't you think? I mean, the SEC West alone...my Lord...the ACC has never even gotten an at-large BCS bid. More talented? Ugh. Talk about talking to a wall.

I'm decidedly not an SEC fan. But I feel silly even having to type this...

By the way, the real point is that the best football players come out of the south.

 

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