As frustrated as a I am with Addazio, this sort of attrition is natural. Now it is on him to go and get good replacements.
UPDATE: Gowins is gone too.
UPDATE: Gowins is gone too.
Monday, November 30, 2015
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32 comments:
It may be natural, but I don't like it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjteEQWNK6U
Alston with what is arguably the highlight of the Addazio era so far. "The speedy guy....the little guy....allstonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn" - notice we had the ball in our own territory, 2 TO, 1:38 to play in the half down 4 and we were swinging for the fences. a stark contrast to this year's hapless offense.
Alston's instagram post seems like he is leaving on pretty good terms. i wonder what happened.
Anyone know if Wade and Hilliman qualify for medical red shirts?
It was also reported that other dominoes would be falling after Marcus Outlaw was reported to have opted out; now Sherm Alston; have any other names been included in the rumors ???? Hopefully, not a trend - even one more would be troubling.!!!
RB Jordan Gowins just announced he is joining the line at the door... Maybe Jeff Smith can takeover as a tailback with D Wade returning..
Who wants to answer a depressing trivia question? When was the last time that BC was ranked in either football or basketball, and how long did it last?
Jag's final year for football.
2007 for basketball?
That's almost a decade for both sports. That's really depressing.
Close - January 2009 after beating UNC in basketball. That lasted 1 whole week before the first of many losses to Harvard. It is now almost 2016...
Ryan - to be clear, neither BC football nor BC basketball has ever been ranked under Brad Bates, who took over in 2012.
Interesting comment from another site. Perhaps Leahy avoids being interviewed on the subject of BC Athletics as he knows there will be an alumni uproar.
"I heard Leahy speak at a small fundraising event a couple of months ago. He feels that the ACC is helpful in attracting students from the southeast. He stated that athletics is a money loser and it's getting worse due to higher salaries and lower ticket sales. If anything he is looking to reduce funding for athletics to narrow the losses. He further stated that we will not have a D1 mens lacrosse team and that we will not have a practice hockey rink.
Obviously, Leahy is completely incompetent and his vision for athletics at BC is so far from reality it's time for the trustees to take over the day to day administration of the athletic department. A mission statement from John Fish emphasizing BC's commitment to winning championships is needed to shore up the season ticket base and provide a clear message to our partners in the ACC and to every recruit in the country. The president has way too much day to day autonomy over athletics and his actions have destroyed our football and basketball programs and decimated our season ticket base."
I agree with Napoleon B. The issues are systemic. Current circumstances probably mean we have Addazio for at least one more year, but there has to be an institutional commitment to competitve sports programs and a willingness to objectively examine what it takes to return to consistent success. This commitment has to come from the Board of Trustees.
The current approach is not working. The head football coach is just one of the problems. Numerous universities we believe to be our competition, very high quality academic organizations, have integrated consistent athletic success into their core mission. BC has not.
Napolean - I am sure Leahy is a big drag on BC athletics and fails to see that a sound investment in athletics (with appropriate safeguards for BC's mission) will pay off handsomely for BC (and advance BC's goals).
I had heard somewhere that when he says BC football loses money (or is it BC's ACC sports?) that he uses some funny accounting.
Rather that subtracting actual "costs" of an athlete for revenue, he subtracts the "value" the BC scholarship and the value of the extra's athlete's get. Something like that. maybe someone else knows the accounting issue here.
also, if BC is losing money on sports they should cut them - like baseball.... which, guaranteed, is a money loser.
a few years back, Leahy told some alums that if alums want men's lax they would need to pony up $35,000,000. That number is now probably $50,000,000.
given how tight and cheap BC is, it is even more surprising the BB would advocate for Daz to get a raise when Daz had 4 years left on his contract. I'd bet that BB lost a lot of credibility with Leahy and BOT for that one and the hoops situation.
Even ESPN is turning on the SEC. Finebaum their chief shill at the network said it was a down year for the conference. Rusillo and Kannell said it's not the best conference. Just three months ago the tune was different. All at ESPN were proclaiming it the best. The know nothings that vote in the pre season AP poll had ten SEC teams ranked. Today that number is four. Only one SEC team is in the top ten ( BAMA ). The Big 10 has three. The ACC has four if one counts ND. How could the dominant, superior conference have fallen to such depths? Sooners coach Stoops and others over the last three years have been warning the public not to fall for the propaganda. Maybe some in Dixie and elsewhere will accept the reality that Stanford coach Shaw promotes that parity exists in the college game and there are no upsets. 2. BC isn't the only inept offense extant. Florida has the same formula. No blocking and a QB that can't throw. How could they be SEC East champ? They wouldn't win the MAC. What a sorry state that conference is in.
Fr. Leahy became president of BC in 1996. Under Leahy's watch, the Yawkey center was built and BC was at the forefront of conference realignment, moving from the dying Big East to the ACC. Also under Leahy's watch, Tom O'Brien was hired and resurrected the football program from a gambling scandal and lifted BC consistently into the top 25, then Jags brought BC football to back-to-back ACC championship games. Al Skinner was hired and also lifted BC basketball to numerous NCAA tournament appearances and top 25 rankings. Also under Leahy's tenure, Jerry York has brought four national titles to BC (granted, York was hired before Leahy became president).
The last few years of BC football and basketball have been bleak, but I don't think you can rationally lay the blame on Leahy, given that the first decade or so of Leahy's tenure were some of the best all-around years in the history of BC sports.
Tim
Good points. That tempest in a teapot scandal cost us Gladchuck. He made great hires in York, TOB, and Al. He has also put 2 top coaches in at Navy. I think most of our problems were sewn by Gene. Ha alienated TOB, fired Al, and given more time he might have even driven York out. Being in The ACC is a very heavy lift for a school like BC. You have to really do things well just to be competitive. Gene dug us a huge whole that still has us behind the 8 ball.
forgive me, this was before my time at BC. on what terms did Gladchuk leave? he seems to have done a nice job at Navy and hired our best coaches. why not just bring him back?
Now we are blaming Fr. Leahy? Unbelievable! How about looking at yourselves. If I am the president of a university and I go to a small stadium and only see 30,000 fans, I begin to wonder if sports are important to the alumni. And if they are not important to the alumni, why should I care? I recall going to a game during the Matt Ryan era and turning to my brother and saying, "This is a critical ACC game and there are thousands of empty seats. What's wrong with these people?" Even in the glory years they could not sell out dinky Alumni Stadium.
It's not the fault of the administration that some sports programs are bad. They are investing a lot of money in coaches and assistant coaches. The alumni are not donating enough to build an indoor practice facility. That's on us, not the administration. And, frankly, why should we spend money on that? Why do we have to get sucked into this arms race when we are a small school that relies on alumni for support (whereas state schools get massive amounts of funding from people who never even attended the school - plus, their enrollment is 3 times greater).
Athletes today are a bunch of babies. My god, I remember getting up at 5:10 AM and practicing in the archaic Campion Gym. And I loved it. It's where I met my wife. We didn't cry about not having a decent facility to practice. We just did it. Heck, one time our coach sneaked us to the Northeastern boathouse and we literally stole their boats and rowed on the Charles (well, borrowed. We did bring them back). Now, they face a little adversity and they transfer? Good riddance. Have fun in life running away at the first sign of trouble. I have had coaches that I absolutely despised. But I was never a quitter and stuck with it. I stayed for my teammates, Screw the coach!
I'm hoping everyone gets all of the complaining and negativity out in the next few days. Going to this blog gets more depressing by the day.
EB, let's be cheerful as it 'tis the season. Let us not be negative toward BC alum ("that's on us") or Bc athletes ("Athletes today are a bunch of babies")
Let us celebrate all the great successes on the gridiron in 2015, all of BB's innovations to make the BC experience better and the fantastic work in basketball realm.
Out of courtesy, I will let you go first with the great things we have to talk about and celebrate?
go ahead....
El Miz
The gambling scandal that cost Henning his job, he wasn't doing well anyway, kind of swept Gladchuck in because of the uproar. You didn't even have blogs then, can't imagine what would have been made of it today. You can draw a comparison to this whole uproar about Daz that we are going through as I write. There is always allot of emotion around these things, that builds to a point that "something must be done"! When usually the best thing is to do nothing. Face it people love it when Heads roll.
Eagleboston is, I'm assuming, drunk or just on here to fire up arguments.
I would pay Nordstrom prices at kohl's. BC is putting a dollar store product on the field and hardwood and asking a cumulative cost of admission equivalent of Sacks fifth avenue when you factor in mandatory donations, tailgating costs, ticket orices, and a God awful product on the field the last few years.
Brad bates is out of his league in the ACC. He has failed with both of his hires. He has failed to provide the master plan he promised. He has failed to make bold moves to improve the state of BC Athletics. He has, in fact, done absolutely nothing to improve BC, our sports programs, our facilities, our GameDay experience.. he has done nothing but make needed fires and absolutely flopped on their replacements.
And the Brad Bates hires falls squarely on Fr. Leahy and the board for failing to have the oversight to see that. He never made a big move at his last stop. They were cheap.
A supervisor needs to be accountable for the failures of their hires. That is the way the world works. An AD needs to be held responsible for his failures in terms of hires and progression of Athletics. A coach needs to be held responsible for the product on the field. A President and Board needs to be held responsible for the AD they hired.
Boston College needs to clean house and it needs to start at the top. Father Leahyou has done a lot of good at BC and is a great man/Jesuit. This isn't an attack on him or his character. He has, for all intents and purposes, gotten old and gone stale though. BC needs fresh blood with the energy and passion to take the next step. BC has thrown lots of great ideas out there lately, but made zero progress on most of them. It's time for someone new to bear the torch and reinvigorate the school as a whole and athletics.
What happened to ever to excel? Soaring to glory? Talons of fury are more like cute fuzzy kitten pictures now. We may still be men and women for others, but BC is a national program with an imagine to uphold and FBS teams that are not only the laughing stock of their conference, but a Nation, hurt that image. That ranking. The value of the experience and degree.
Wouldn't pay**
eagle1331
Why stop there. Fire the Pope!
Hoib - you can be sarcastic or you can be a realistic.
I don't post on a blog to argue or be belittled by some other blog-poster who comes on to attack rather than discuss. It's my opinion, take it or leave it, but it is a fact that it is the way the world works...
If a company is failing, heads roll. If it is a publicly traded company and all the little changes don't fix it, the CEO gets canned by the board. If the board isn't working, they get voted out and new members come on.
BC, while a private institution, is not unlike a publicly traded company. We have all invested hundreds of thousands of actual dollars in our BC education. Probably thousands in Athletics. If you care enough about our Athletics to be on this blog, you have also invested your emotional dollars in the school (that's a real marketing "thing").
I'm sorry, but changing the lower level personnel has not helped the Sports Program. It has not given the school as a whole a great public notoriety. It has not made us more of a factor in Boston or New England or the Nation. You are not going to change the "we're a college in a pro sports town" mentality by putting out a sub-par product.
When we've made those changes, they have not been for the better. We haven't even made a lateral move. We've tried to poach someone from a lesser company in hopes that they can run with the big dogs, and they haven't been able to.
If those hiring decisions aren't increasing the product on the field, or the value of the institution whose namesake it bears, then you have to look up the chain at the people making those hiring decisions. They are not putting the right people in place to improve Boston College, the student experience, the fan experience, or the public image.
College Ranking websites look at all those things - sports, student experience, endowments, etc.
If the Athletics program keeps on its downward trend, BC will drop in rankings, the value of degrees with decrease, interest in the school will decrease...
Where do you stop the bleeding? We've hit rock bottom in sports.
I certainly don't want Bates as the man that hires Jerry York's replacement. At this juncture, I doubt Father Leahy's commitment to the Athletic Department as a whole, and I think it is best a change is made to right the ship.
That is my opinion. Feel free to have your own.
Analogy - I have played golf at various military bases. If the commanding General was an avid golfer, the condition of the base golf course was very good.
If the CG was not interested in golf, the course maintenance money dried up (and was spent elsewhere) and the condition of the base course was poor.
We can't let this happen to BC Sports.
Go BC.
Eagle 1331
I probably care more about BC Sports than you. I think Leahy has more important things to do. He shouldn't be judged on how the teams are doing. I also think he's doing a fine job w/ his much more important responsibilities.
what an obnoxious comment. "I probably care more about BC Sports than you"
I would like to see an Eagle take over as head football coach and head basketball coach. Hockey is all set. Brown, Macinnis or Spina will take that over with a seemless transition. I would also like to see the head of the board and the AD be a Boston College graduate as well. The are too many people over their "working" in the athletic department. I want some people over their who have experienced the university as students not just as employees.
Been saying it for years:
Al Washington ought to be on the fast track to being the next headcoach of football.
Howard Eisley ought be the number one target as the next basketball coach.
John Powers ought to be head of the board.
there.
Agree 100% regarding lack of alums in department. Please read my recent post under new scheduling headline
Good thoughts Edmunds.
Lol
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