Sunday, November 25, 2018

Addazio vs BC's actual history

Addazio referenced winning historically at BC and mentioned 6.5 wins per year since 1980. That's a misleading stat since the college football season has expanded gradually from 11 games, to 11 plus regular bowls, to 12 plus regular bowls. In my opinion, it is probably better to measure Addazio's body of work using winning percentage. Right now he sits at .500. And to me that feels like the sort of coach he is. But I feel like BC can be more and that history is not told through 6.5 wins per year, but through what a variety of coaches have done at the school under varied circumstances. Take a look:

Winning Percentage
Boston College All-Time: .560
Boston College Since DIA-DIAA Split: .538
Boston College Since joining a conference: .557
Boston College Since joining ACC: .547
Addazio: .500

Winning Percentage by Coach
Frank Leahy: 909
Jeff Jagodzinski: .714
Joseph Yukica: .648
Gilmour Dobie: .639
Tom O'Brien: .625
Frank Cavanaugh: .625
Mike Holovak: .623
Tom Coughlin: .614
Jim Miller: .586
Denny Myers: .561
Jack Bicknell: .517
Steve Addazio: .500
Moody Sarno: .500
Dan Henning: .458
Frank Spaziani: .431
Ernest Hefferle: .375
Ed Chlebek: .364

Conference Winning Percentage
Jagodzinski (ACC): .687
O'Brien (ACC): .625
Coughlin (Big East): .559
O'Brien (total): .521
O'Brien (Big East): .490
Henning (Big East): 452
Spaziani (ACC): .406
Addazio (ACC): .375

Winning Seasons
Yukica: 9
O'Brien: 8
Holovak: 7
Addazio: 5
Bicknell: 4
Miller: 4
Spaziani:2
Jagodzinski: 2
Coughlin: 2
Henning: 1

152 comments:

eagleboston said...

.375 ACC record should be a fireable offense.

Bravesbill said...

Having a worse conference record that freaking Spaz should be a fireable offense.

Big Ern said...

I will play this game Daz. What is average coaching salary since 1980 at BC? Let’s pay you that amount if you are interested in history. Historically average coach gets historically average pay.

Goberry said...

As opposed to most Internet commentators, I welcome anyone to tell me why I might be wrong on this.
Ryan day was BC's OC when the offense scored less that I did when I was at the Heights, and I didn't play sports. Why is everyone thinking that he is the Great Hope? If anything, I would have thought that Daz proved that an Urban Meyer coordinator doesn't necessarily succeed after he leaves the mothership.

Geezer eagle said...

All I want for Christmas is Dazoshit gone. Please santa. Please, please, please.

Napolean Bonaparte said...

Nice work Atlanta. The conference winning percentage is telling. As Big Ern alluded to, makes you wonder what the cost per game or victory is using constant dollars and compensation data for the various coaches. And to Goberry's point - there is no sure thing when hiring - especially so when you hire an assistant with no previous head coaching experience. But everybody wants previous head coaches with a good track record and they must be more expensive unless say from the FCS level. On paper Don Brown has an edge because of his successful record as a head coach (albeit at lower level programs and ignoring the fact that he is 63). So it takes a lot more work and judgment with the assistants. You have to look at everybody including head coaches from lesser programs and conferences. Jarmond got a basketball head coach with previous head coaching experience from much smaller schools.

Edward Griffith said...

Nearly in the middle of those 25 wonderful years was a qb very close to Flutie and Ryan
Glenn Foley from CHERRY HILL EAST NJ . Glenn engineered wonderful wins over
Penn State and ND (David Gordon"s kick)
THREE phenomenal qbs in 25 years and several other good ones. IT CAN BE DONE.
Check out PSU 1983 (Partial) 1992 PSU Game you tube. You'll see things in a much happier way.

BC fan since the 1960s said...

For the younger people out there. Take Edward Griffith’s recommendation and watch that 1983 game vs Penn a state on Youtube. A different world back then to be sure but compare the BC game plan and play calling for that game to what you have seen in recent years. Also note the Penn State linebackers and secondary were not stuffing the box in contrast to what we now see every week.

BCAlum2000 said...

If this is the BS route he is trying to go with, then he should be FIRED immediately. What a clown comment/move.

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Anonymous said...

The conference WP should get him canned immediately. He knows the what the numbers are and he chooses to go with the 6.5 wins line and the having Game Day on campus line.

He sounds like a carnival-barker.

Anonymous said...

. . . TGS hopes when he gets out that he can pull that type of role. Maybe his ex-life partner can hook him up. One can only hope eh, TGS.

Geezer eagle said...

Griffith, I went to Cherry Hill West. Hated East lol

CvegasEagle said...

Mack Brown back to UNC. Maybe all those Lemoncella dinners in the North End will pay off for Daz. Can be his OLine Coordinator

Tim said...

Winning percentage vs. AP ranked teams (last 7 BC coaches only):

1. Jags .833 (5-1)
2. Henning .364 (4-7)
3. O'Brien .310 (9-20)
4. Coughlin .308 (4-9)
5. Bicknell .148 (4-23-1)
6. Addazio .059 (1-16)
7. Spaziani .000 (0-10)

NEDofSavinHill said...

Heard a story about the firing of GDF. Two months before he was let go he was told to seek another job. He spent that period looking to no avail then in August they announced he was retiring to seek other opportunities. BC gave him a chance to explore the options available. Could they be doing that with Daz? Let him latch on to something while still HC at BC. 2. Surprised that Edsall is still at UConn with a combined 4-19 record. Maybe a double switch is in the offing. Edsall to UMass and Daz to UConn. That would solve our problem. 3.It was noted previously that next year will be a rebuilding year. Seven starters on defense will leave, three D-Linemen, a LB and three DBs.. Six starters on offense or more. It is time for a move.

John said...

#6 and #7 within the last 10 years = 1-26. Pitiful.

So Jarmond has to consider how long we have been suffering, knowing it won't get any better with this b.s. artist.

Unknown said...

Also, by Daz's own claim BC is a 6.5 win school, he's performed worse than that at 6.3 wins over his tenure. So he's basically saying he's slightly worse than the average he's using to justify his lack of growth - and, of course, that average was higher before he took thew helm too since he's a drag on the median.

bceagle93 said...

Tim -- if those numbers are accurate, they are interesting. In my mind, it speaks more about the talent gap we face than anything. We will never get the 4 and 5 star recruits due to our academic standards, geographic location, and muted commitment to big time sports. I am okay with that by the way.

Jags had talent on both sides of the ball during his tenure and a creative play caller in Logan (and most of that talent was TOB recruited). Surprising that Henning was that good but he had Hasselbeck as his QB. So aspiring to be at least .500 or better against ranked teams seems to be a good stretch goal for any incoming coach. Requires sharp talent identification, consistently getting a diamond in the rough QB, the ability to coach up and develop players, and will require creativity with play calling to manufacture wins. You perform less than .300 against ranked teams in over 2+ years, and CLOWN SHOW GOT TO GO.

It's a challenging job no question, but for someone with the right temperament and intelligence, it could be very attractive.

Unknown said...

BC could have canned him and SAVED money by hiring Les Miles! But then he's a big name coach and a great recruiter so why would they need him!

Anonymous said...

The problem is the QB. He isn't good. Need someone who can get a QB together.

1-16. The one was against USC when they had the coach who would show up to games drunk.

Anonymous said...

I think that is wrong. USC was his only meaningful win though.

Anonymous said...

Like I said the other day his hard sell on how great the program is means the program isn't that great.

Anonymous said...

And if the program is going so well why is nobody trying to get him from us.

Anonymous said...

The Syracuse post game comments by Dazzler and AB were the biggest pile of proverial bullshit in BC sports history.

Unknown said...

There was a lot more takeaways in the post game presser than normal, and Addazio's BS really came through.
- Daz had clearly researched his comment about the record since the 1980's and was ready to use it. Why even waste time researching this BS.
- Daz clearly admits Dillon has been hurt. Press clearly missed an opportunity to go after him for not using other backs and asking him questions about recruiting depth for these situations
- Daz thinks going to a toilet bowl qualifies as a "good bowl"
- Always talks about momentum and feeling "good"
- These sentences should never go together in a row from a head coach: "I think our guys played hard. I thought we played sloppy. We made too many mistakes. We’re going to have to get that fixed. I’m proud of what these seniors have accomplished."
- Conclusion: Daz still is and always will be a meathead.

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Anonymous said...

More mouse analogies.

Anonymous said...

Who do you want to replace Dazzler? Give me a name.

Anonymous said...

Don't say Mark Whipple or the coach from Army.

Anonymous said...

Or Nick Saban or Les Miles.

Anonymous said...

The ND OC or the guy who just moved to Miss St. Are the top 2. Would have to buy them out but Miss St guy is worth it. He cannot want to be in cow country part of Miss based on his track record.

BCAlum2000 said...

I think Ryan Day is the most natural candidate at the moment, but that can change very quickly if there ever really becomes an opening. That said, I dont see any chance that Addazio is fired ... even if we lose the bowl game and finish the season on a 4 game losing streak.

That speaks more to the broader issues at the athletic department and school leadership in general.

BCAlum2000 said...

UNC looks like they are bringing back Mack Brown. Maybe we should go get TOB ...

BCAlum2000 said...

Les Miles went to friggin Kansas. That means we easily could have gotten him. That said, his offensive schemes make Addazio look like a revolutionary thinker ...

Anonymous said...

I went to LSU for graduate school. Les Miles was not coming to BC. BC was not asking Les Miles to come to BC either.

Anonymous said...

His offense was more vanilla than BC too. He certainly would not address the QB issue we have either.

BCAlum2000 said...

I agree that BC would not go after him and that he would have not solved the QB problem. That said, I think he would have jumped at the chance to compete in the ACC, especially given that he really was in coaching limbo post LSU. The fact that he went to perennial doormat Kansas, tells you his options were limited at best.

Geezer eagle said...

Hopefully, Brown will transfer after his daddy is canned.

Anonymous said...

Yeah but he is a Michigan OK St guy. Don't think BC was on his radar at all, small school with more restrictions than most.

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BCAlum2000 said...

Does anyone remember that during Sgt. Slaughter's intro press conference, he said he saw no reason that BC could not compete for titles ... both ACC and national? Now as he is yet again backed into a corner, he is trying to claim 6.5 wins is average at BC and therefore he is better than average? Forget the blatant falsity of this argument or the fact that from 1999 through 2009, BC won a total of 96 games, an average of 8.7 per season, and only had one season of less than 8 wins (2000 won 7). This included two 10+ win seasons.

When this clown starts to fear for his job, he will say anything. Just like last year and the year prior. When he is winning, suddenly he is Mr. Responsibility (bad calls are on me, etc.). But when the losses mount, he runs and hides like a scared little animal. This guy is a joke.

bceagle93 said...

Guys -- as I pointed out above, this is a challenging job. It's like going to work for a startup. You need to be ambitious, have a ton of energy and be innovative to succeed here with the limited resources you've got at your disposal. Not everyone can do it (nor wants to). Despite it being the ACC, Les Miles or any other high profile name would NEVER come to BC -- way too much work for less pay.

We also need to come to grips with the fact that BC football HC will always be viewed as a stepping stone job for good coaches. You show what you can do here in a Power conference and you will get paid big bucks somewhere else to manage more and better talent (with more resources as well). Being known as a launch pad for future NFL coaches would not be the worst thing. Maybe we get lucky and find someone who wants to drop roots in the Northeast for the long haul, but not likely. Given the challenges, I think we will continue to cycle through head coaches every 5 years or so.

That said, I believe we need to establish a formula to identify ideal candidates for our University and stick to it. That is what makes this next hire so crucial.

John said...

And Hartsell from Brockton.

dietmrfizz said...

Holy shit Addazio has a worse ACC record than Spaz..

Joseph said...

BCE93:

I don't disagree but does it have to be so? It has been shown time after time that PR is very responsible for building a strong academic program. Look at ND. Look at Duke. Look at Northwestern. These days there probably is no better PR than top tier football and basketball. I would hope that our AD can demonstrate this to Leahy and the BOT. Boston being a major pro sports town makes it harder but not impossible.

The Tall One said...

What kills me is how padded the schedule has been during these miraculous "above-average" win seasons. Yes, we used to play one or two games in the Big East against teams we'd probably beat. But it's gotten out of control now with these out of conference games. Umass AND Holy Cross AND Temple? I mean - three of our seven wins this year were against teams that barely have a D1 program. Then, we beat a couple teams who are decent in the ACC, and another couple who are in clear rebuilding years. (And lose to another team that is in a rebuild). And here we are.

Anyone who thinks that the end-result of this season should be celebrated is delusional.

BCAlum2000 said...

Addazio is a spineless, characterless, fraud. I can give a man many benefits of the doubt, but that 6.5 win comment is too much. 1) He clearly researched that and was prepared to use it as a line (i.e. he knows he is a loser and is trying to justify the pathetic finish to a once promising season), and 2) it directly contradicts his BS introduction press conference when he said BC could and should compete for titles every year.

This clown needs to go.

Geezer eagle said...

Amen

bceagle93 said...

Joseph -- there may be no school on the planet that knows more about the PR benefits of having a good football team (and Heisman trophy winning QB) than BC. I think the Greater Heights campaign is definitely aimed at elevating the cause. But I do not believe that Leahy and trustees have the same aspirations at the moment. Right now the school is among the most selective (and expensive) in the country -- there is no shortage of interest in BC, so a higher profile sports program (and increased expectations and investment that comes with it) isn't needed to boost PR. If MJ can raise the $150mil, more power to him (literally and figuratively), but the school is not hinging on it.

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I am okay with the overall profile of the BC athletic program as laid out in the Greater Heights campaign -- being legit competitors for conference championships in our sports is exciting and significant. That said, I just really want us to have coaches that better represent the ideals of the University and the alumni community. Our women's sports now seem to have that (soccer, lax, women's hockey and now women's hoops). Men's hockey has it, though we may be seeing the end soon with York. I'm hoping we can do the same with football and men's basketball -- and if we can start being viewed like a Stanford or ND someday, it's a bonus.

JBQ said...

"Sgt. Slaughter" pretty good BCAlum2000. Ah, the Glenn with 2 Ns. The "magnificent redhead" was an extension of Tommy C. Both are badly missed and maybe almost as much as Paul Peterson who not only broke his leg but left his heart on the field for Matt Ryan to pick up. When's the last time that you saw a fake field goal?------Speaking of extensions, did anyone watch the overtime bonanza between A&M and LSU? I turned on the game just for the overtime. Jimbo has "monsters of the midway". The star receiver is 6 ft 6. The qb is 6 ft 7.---Tom Gatewood's grandson came to BC. If BC can just put their coaching situation together. He will win the Heisman, that is if he can run behind a new offensive line made up of graduate transfers.

BCAlum2000 said...

Best Glenn Foley line ever; when asked about Rutgers Bowl chances after a loss to BC:
"The only bowl Rutgers is going to is the one I just got off"

Our recent QB struggles are an anomaly, not the norm. Since Flutie, BC has seen Glenn Foley, two Hasselbecks (I don't count the third one), Brian St. Pierre and Matty Ryan. All played in the NFL. We need to go back to what made us who we are; huge and dominant offensive lines, strong RB's and talented NFL style QB's. We currently have the RB and that is about it.

CvegasEagle said...

Addazio on the road recruiting today. Might not mean anything, but worth mentioning.

Tim said...

Wouldn't it be great if there was a former BC quarterback who ran a fun and prolific offense at BC, and who was working his way up the coaching ranks over the past 10-15 years, including some head coaching experience? Someone with a good head on his shoulders who knows football but can also recruit and inspire young men?

Presto: https://snowbadgers.com/coaches.aspx?rc=194

You're welcome, BC.

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BCAlum2000 said...

I just wonder if Peterson is ready ...

Would love to see him come back as an Offensive Coordinator at this point in his coaching career.

downtown_resident said...

As we watched Anthony Brown struggle on Saturday I thought back to that FSU game three years ago when BC was getting annihilated and the cameras were focused on Brown and touting him as the savior for the BC offense. Obviously that was all fed to ESPN by Daz.

Just goes to show that 2000 is right, and Daz will say anything if it will buy him more time as the BC head coach.

BCAlum2000 said...

Let us not forget that the ACC was horrible this year and BC could only go 4-4 with what was a team full of seniors and returning starters. There is no going up from here story for Addazio to try to claim.

Geezer eagle said...

If mouse doesn't have the courage to fire Dazoshit today and Christian later, then he will prove to be the weak, unqualified hire I believed him to be from the start.

Tim said...

BCALum2000-
A fun trip down memory lane re: Paul Peterson:
https://atleagle.blogspot.com/2005/05/my-tribute-to-paul-peterson.html

dixieagle said...

If ever there was a coach in need of firing as soon as possible, it's Addazio. The door was wide open for BC to have a special year, with veteran players and a star RB, but Daz was too thickheaded and unimaginative to take advantage. If not now, never. I can just hear him during the next few years: "We're a young team, Dillon is still getting over his injury ... blah, blah, blah."

bceagle93 said...

Shocked if he is let go at this point. The big news is that we had 13 All ACC players this year -- a school record. That news + Gameday being on campus a few weeks ago + nature of our admin + bigger problems with basketball = be prepared for a Daz extension. Unless Daz chooses to walk on his own accord, there will likely be no maroon and gold wave, folks.

As disappointing as it may be, turn attention and energy to men's hoops and hope that gets fixed. Let's also hope people with withhold support for the athletics campaign until a new football HC is found. Until then, the clown show on the football sidelines will likely continue at least through next year.....and we are still waiting for it to be beautiful.....#DecideToCry

Geezer eagle said...

Dixie, my sister. You nailed it perfectly.

mod34b said...

GE and DE, yes it is the time... now.

"If not now, never."

yet, we still have bogus die-hard Daz apologists like BCe93 hoping this clown stays. pathetic what losers BC has for fans.

CvegasEagle said...

I dont think he will. I bet Jarmond wants him out but the Board and Leahy only care about $$$ and for him to stay. Jarmond needs to be spending time in Excel and showing the Board a proforma for 2019 -- showing how much money they will lose in ticket sales, merch. and concessions if 7 win Steve stays. I would think there would only be a small delta in terms of dollars between buying out Addazio and the potential loss from sales/interest.

bceagle93 said...

mod: I've been calling for Daz to go since the middle of LAST season. Dude needs to be fired -- yes, now. CLOWN SHOW GOT TO GO. Not looking like it is happening and I am not sure it was ever a real possibility at this point....

If prayers are not answered, vote with your feet, your wallets and your well written messages to MJ and admin. Posting rants on social media and discussion boards won't change it.....

BCNavy89 said...

Whether the AD fires or keeps the football and basketball HCs may not be a sign of weakness or lack of courage, but not issuing an unequivocal statement after the decision is made would be. I, as a fan may not like his decision, but it is certainly more palatable if the reasons are laid out why and he stands behind those reasons. Otherwise, he will have taken the passive approach, and by default, taken the fans for granted.

CvegasEagle said...

I think he's back. He visited two recruits today and both recruits tweeted pictures. Daz is smiling wide in both pics. He's stubborn enough that he wouldn't be doing this to benefit the program if he knew he was getting canned.

janebc said...

Amazing how our collective hope has dimmed in 24 hours. Is BC going to allow the program to hit rock bottom for the second time in a decade? I'd be surprised if 7 Win Steve hits 7 wins next season. Perpetual disappointment.

Big Ern said...

Pay the man his money! 0.4 wins above replacement! 0.4 WAR Steve

bceagle93 said...

See my comment here, btw. Interesting how this post played out:

https://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=9512562&postID=2088114289777817053

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BC fan since the 1960s said...

Bad sign he is out recruiting. Good sign the AD refused comment on his status. Taken together however a terrible sign for the team. Letting a coach recruit while the school won’t publicly comment says to the world - this guy might not be back. And the other coaches who visit those kids will point that out to them. This is the height Of incompetency on the part of the administration. If he is staying say so. If not get the new guy in here so he can recruit. This is unbelievable. It’s amazing this guy might stay. Maybe he will become the Marvin Lewis of college football. Lewis has coached the Bengals for 14 years without winning a single playoff game

Unknown said...

A look at the 2019 Schedule and early predictions with Daz

Richmond Sept 7- Win (The cupcake on the schedule)
Kansas Sept 14- Loss (Les Miles & co. will come into Alumni having beat Indiana St. and
Coastal Carolina. They'll be gunning for their first 3-0 start since 2009)
@ Rutgers Sept 21- Win (If BC loses fans revolt en masse and Daz loses the team for the season)
Florida State- Loss
NC State- Loss
Virginia Tech- Loss
Wake Forest- Win (Daz makes this one interesting though)
@ Clemson- Loss (Blowout by more than 40 given BC's lack of offense and poor defense)
@ Louisville- Loss (New Louisville head coach senses and draws blood because of a weak opponent at home)
@ Pitt- Loss
@ Syracuse- Loss
@ Notre Dame Nov 23- Loss (Second major shellacking loss of the season by more than 40 points)

Daz ends the season 3-9, 1-7 in conference. Drops overall record (after 2018 bowl loss) to 41-48 (0.460) and 19-37 (0.339). Record vs. the top 25 drops to around 1-20.

BCNavy89 said...

But when it comes together it will be beautiful

CvegasEagle said...

Agree with Flyaway but we will beat Kansas.. They have no talent and the Miles effect will take at least one season.

Unknown said...

CvegasEagle- Lack of any meaningful game tape on the new Kansas offense will be BC's downfall for the Kansas game. Agree with you though that this is the next most plausible W on the schedule.

Tim said...

Can anyone cite an example of one of BC’s peer institutions (obviously NOT Alabama, Ohio State, etc.) firing a football coach after three straight winning seasons?

Geezer eagle said...

Tim, you are one of the main players in the Dazoshit apologists crowd. Are you blind, delusional, or just dim? How can you not see that this man is an abysmal coach? ( Shaking my head in disbelief.)

bceagle93 said...

Here’s an interesting answer: NC State fired Tom O’Brien in 2012 after 3 straight winning seasons where he went 9-4, 8-5 and 7-6. He went 40-35 in six seasons and 22-26 in the ACC.

Said AD Debbie Yow at the time "Coach O'Brien and I agree on the goal of becoming a Top 25 program. We just don't agree on what it takes to do that, how to get there." His buyout was $1.2mil over 4 years.

CvegasEagle said...

**Currently looking up AD directory for a “Tim”**

Tim said...

Bceagle93-
Good example. I wonder if there are others.

I would not miss Addazio or his miserable 1-16 record against ranked teams, or his losing ACC record. But Addazio always seems to do just well enough to avoid getting canned.

CvegasEagle said...

BC hoops not looking too bad halfway through the 1st

Edward Griffith said...

TO escape the Gloom and Doom of Dazzo-Shit

You have to watch Glenn Foley and David Gordon doing it to the FAKE (faux) Irish 41-39 .

John said...

Foley to Mitchell and many other great players like Darnell Campbell from Brockton.

Coughlin opened up the playbook and Foley wasn't afraid of anyone.

He ranked out the Irish and he ranked out Ohio State - "I don't know what a Buckeye is, and I couldn't care less."

Those were some of the good old days.

Go BC - bring some back.

John said...

Even when we lost, we did it while trying to win as "BC Men"!

Anonymous said...

Mod, The Rutgers fans are even more pathetic.

Anonymous said...

Dazzler is not getting canned. Father Leahy makes the call on Dazzler not Jarmond. That was the agreement.

Cannot wait until next year when the US News College rankings come out and BC has dropped to the 40's below BU, Northeastern and Syracuse.

Problem is with Leahy. Guy can spend money and do nothing else.

I got to church on Sunday. I can say what I want.

hsk said...

Bball looked good against Minnesota, nice win in the midst of all this gloom. Looks like Spadazzio lives on.

STL_eagle said...

No comment makes sense from Jarmond as I suspect he would like to make a move but likely lost the green light when the team started to do better last year and then started off strong this year. My sense is that Daz is on thin ice but will be given one more year to break the seven win regular season victory total or else get the boot.

The travesty is that almost everyone knows that the team could do better with a new coach. In a down year for the ACC and good talent, Daz still found a way to win just seven games. Clearly it is time to move on but we will likely suffer through another mediocre year before we see any change.

I think we are going to hear it is business as usual and Jarmond will dance around any questions about firing Daz or extending Daz. I bet the tension that people were talking about is the fact that Daz was given neither a vote of confidence nor a pink slip after the Syracuse game and was told to just worry about winning next year.

BCNavy89 said...

https://collegesportsmaven.io/tmg/mark-blaudschun/bc-offers-addazio-a-contract-extension-with-conditions-hXIH1E7G30OPC8v4eyFPQA/

"Reportedly, BC athletic director Martin Jarmond came up with a compromise solution. Addazio's contract will be extended--but for only one year--and it will also include a buyout settlement that will allow BC to fire Addazio after next season for a reduced package if he does not reach the levels BC wants--presumably 8 or more wins.

Addazio, who was recruiting in Ohio on Monday, is ready to accept the deal, understanding it is the best agreement he can get at this time."

CT said...

Nice job by Christian and the boys tonight. I think the cheerleaders outnumbered the “crowd,” which seems like a poor descriptor. Ah well. Two good wins in a row. Tabbs looks good. Popovic must have gotten the message.

Bravesbill said...

Can’t get a good read on the b-ball team. They can look pretty good but awful the next game. Winning while Chapman and Bowman were having bad nights is pretty impressive.

CT said...

If true, won’t recruiting suffer? What’s the motivation to not leave the cupboard bare?

Better develop a QB.

CvegasEagle said...

I get what Martin tried to do but it fails. He’s around sycophants to Leahy and Daz all day. He doesn’t have the pulse of the fan base like this blog. This is just delaying the inevitable.

bceagle93 said...

Not a shock. I'm sure Christian is already on notice and will be replaced when he does not hit his bogey (NCAA tourney bid?). Daz will then follow when he does not hit his (hopefully it is nothing less than ACC Champ bid -- while it will be difficult, simply winning 8 is not enough in my opinion).

Honestly, while I wanted the clown show over as much as anyone, this seems to be the most reasonable, realistic outcome given all that is going on and the administration we have. MJ has negotiated a buyout with Leahy that is palatable and can make the changes he needs in time to get his campaign rolling and successful. Leahy can claim a show of support for his energetic AD. Daz can line up appearance and blazer fitting at ESPN during a bye week next year as a guest analyst (auditioning for Mack Brown's seat). Fans do not have to pay attention to his BS excuses next year -- achieve or you are out.

I'll tell you one thing: while it has been painful, when THIS comes together, it will be beautiful.

CT said...

Plus, consider the source of the article.

CvegasEagle said...

We won’t even win 5 games next year. Setting the threshold of 8 is absurd. He’s not gonna hit that. We literally lose both safeties and our whole D line. Most of our Oline is gone as well. yeesh. Delaying the inevitable is not the responsible choice

BCNavy89 said...

but it could be cost effective

bceagle93 said...

It's definitely the buyout that was the issue. Too expensive for Leahy to move on right now....Daz knows he is dead man walking but will be calling guys dudes and sprinkling paper clips on his desk all the way to the bank.....

Waiting to see if there is a Kickstarter tomorrow that will try to make it happen sooner.......

mod34b said...

Mouse fails. The tiny (in character) yes nan does leahy’s bidding. You can go back to cheering now Mouse.

The disreputable story source (Blauds) make me doubt this story.

But given Mouse already extended Christian, the report does have a ring of truth.


Just disgusting and appalling

Anonymous said...

Dazzler believes his job is to win 7 games. Someone planted that number in his mind. Bates, Leahy or himself. If Jarmond tells him to win 8 games he will win 8 games. However, 8 games comes from Leahy. . .let's not put too much pressure on the coach. If Jarmond tells him he needs to win 8 games then he needs to get canned too. Incentives are not going to work on Dazzler he will do the minimum to keep his job. What the fuck does he care? He didn't go to Boston College.

BCAlum2000 said...

If the report is true, this seems like a political settlement. While I dont love it, I do like that it has put Sgt. Slaughter in a box. It was either get fired now (which BC does not want to do due to the buy-out money), or take a one-year extension based on hitting a specific target that he is unlikely to achieve. In the event that he does not, there is a settled buy-out for significantly less. The fact that Sgt. Slaughter might have taken it shows that he knows he has very limited bargaining power. He must have felt that despite the distaste for spending $5mm or so to buy him out, it was something BC was willing to do.

Now we just need Leahy to go with him ...

Anonymous said...

Why is the buyout 5 million? Isn't the current deal up after the bowl this season.

Thomas said...

I, too, question the validity of that report. I can't recall hearing about another extension ever constructed that way... which isn't to say that it doesn't happen. Hopefully we hear something one way or the other in the next 48 hours.

Did anyone hear the ESPN2 announcer gushing over how good of a coach Jim Christian is? It bordered on bizarre. The second half timeouts were filled with "other coaches around the country talk about how good a coach JC is" and "BC has itself a guy who can coach here in JC"... Clueless broadcaster? Christian in his pockets? Less cynically/more hopefully there's some truth to this?

Regardless, anyone who thinks JC is going anywhere soon is mistaken. He just signed his Jarmond-approved extension 7 months ago. Soonest he would get canned is spring of 2020.

Unknown said...

I thought Addazio was in Michigan yesterday recruiting. Last line in Blauds story says he was in Ohio. Is the story complete garbage?

BCAlum2000 said...

Blauds has usually been garbage before, but if you recall, he was Spaz's mouthpiece. I wonder if he just slid over on his knees to Addazio? In which case, I doubt he would put that out there if there was not some truth to it.

Edward Griffith said...

WE need to send Father Leahy and Dazo-shit to a CYO program in Alaska.
Using the term 8 wins in the same sentence with D-S must be an OXY MORON .
FLUTIE and RYAN for quarterback DEVELOPMENT ,
DO it "FOR BOSTON"

BC fan since the 1960s said...

If you look at BC football as a business, it is incomprehensible that the CEO could compile such a weak performance record over such a long period of time and be brought back by the Board if Directors. This might be the only place where it would happen. And if you are bringing him back for one more year simply because of money concerns, why offer any extension possibility beyond 2019 no matter how tough it will be for it to be triggered. Everyone knows he can’t coach so you shouldn’t want to have him here. Totally nonsensical. Very discouraging that they are willing to piss away another season and stand pat.

bceagle91 said...

Khead, Daz has 2 years after this. Fr. Leahy won't eat over $5 million to buy him out at this point, I don't think. He got extended not too long ago.

eagle1331 said...

He is signed through 2020 at roughly 2.5 million per year

Guido said...

If this story is true , then Boston College has indeed totally embarrassed themselves. The guy is a bozo and you "just fire him". Father Leahy has worn out his welcome and quite frankly must be in mid stages of dementia. I am not a BC grad , but if I were a grad , I would be active in voicing disapproval of this situation !!!! BC grads should unite and do so by withholding future donations. PATHETIC !!!!!! At one time "Ever to Excel" had meaning , but not now !!!!

BCNavy89 said...

He’s entering the coaching equivalent of hospice

Geezer eagle said...

You go, Guido. It's simply outrageous the powers haven't fired Dazoshit. I don't care what the buy-out costs. Bozo-head needs to be run out of town on the rails.

Big Jack Krack said...

When they fire him next year, they will owe him less than $2.5M, I guess.

The "extension" is a produce or your gone next year, I think.

Those who say letters are in order are correct.

I'm going on a trip to Europe for Christmas Markets (Germany, Austria, Slovakia, Hungary), etc. at the end of the week, but the only way for me to get rid of the funk from this season is to write a letter to Addazio personally.

I'll make it professional, but I've got to point out his shortcomings, and how they are unacceptable. I have to look myself in the mirror.

This guy is a B.S. artist trying to tell us what is a high water mark and what is upward trajectory.

I hope the team has fun in Detroit, or Annapolis.

You can't make this sh!t up.

dixieagle said...


I nearly had a heart attack when I read of an "extension." It appears that it is simply referring to not firing him for one more year, though, if I understand things correctly? I cannot imagine that next year won't be a complete debacle, and it seems to me that now would be the perfect time to cut him loose and get someone established when expectations are low anyway.

Jack, I love your idea of writing to Addazio personally. I'm not expert enough on the finer points of football to do that (though I sometimes think I could make better decisions than Daz) but I am working on a letter to Jarmond.

Jack, enjoy that wonderful trip. We've been to all those places before, but not for the markets. Sounds divine! Enjoy.

#FireDazNow

BCAlum2000 said...

Sounds like a great vacation. Enjoy. I agree. The only way to affect change is to be vocal to the right people and/or close the purse strings. This seasons was Sgt. Slaughter's best chance to actually achieve something. There was a ton of hype around the team and around Dillon in particular. We were ranked. He squandered it all with horrible performances against FSU and then at home against Cuse. He truly does look like a guy who cant exceed 7 wins, which is shocking seeing as how poor our OOC schedule has become and the weakness of the league this year in particular. Syracuse's roster has literally half the talent of BC's, yet they are 9-3. The proverbial icing on the cake were his comments about 6.5 wins per year being the norm at BC and hence he is better than average. What a complete spineless, coward, clown. If he is not canned immediately, he should be set up with an impossible situation so that he is easily canned next year (either in-season or immediately thereafter).

Geezer eagle said...

Jack and Dixie, I second your opinions. Is there any way we can start an online petition to Jarmond demanding Dazoshit's immediate termination? This should be ATL's job but the man doesn't have the stones to lead.

bceagle93 said...

Georgia -- looks like someone started a GoFundMe campaign to pay the buyout.

https://www.gofundme.com/fire-adazzio-2018

Money talks!

Anonymous said...

91, thank you.

The 8 win benchmark/threat is the most pathetic thing I have heard since Dazzler proclaimed Game Day as a signal the program is in good shape. No wonder at all why they lost every game since. The coach rests on his pathetic laurels the players rest on their two-bit laurels.

NEDofSavinHill said...

In the movie Patton George Scott says that fixed fortifications are monuments to man's stupidity in reference to the Maginot Line. Daz's offense i.e. the single wing attack is a monument to his stupidity. He doesn't even know what a passing attack looks like. It will be dispiriting and demoralizing to the fan base if he returns.

janebc said...

We are unfortunate insofar as BC has a president and BOT who have clearly demonstrated, time and again, their complete and utter disregard for the feelings and opinions of the school's loyal alumni. And what is even more astounding is their utter penny-wise-and-pound-foolish approach to the football program. Rave about having a successful GameDay on campus after a decade of mismanagement-and then take steps to insure that it never happens again for another 5 years. I rant about Daz's lack of a learning curve-clearly Leahy and the BOT suffer from the same impediment. Evidently, they leaned nothing at all from the Spaz debacle and we are rapidly spiraling into another such demise. I wont bother asking if they understand how much brand loyalty, ticket, concession, bookstore and ticket revenues they are sacrificing by allowing this to happen, not to mention the free TV and other media exposure a good football team brings )something we enjoyed for a couple of weeks this year) Let the football program slide into an embarrassment again.
And please, BC, spare us the "academic standards" line: it is old and tired and embarrassing when such "football factories" as ND (and we did beat them 6 years in a row, even though we can "never be them"), USC and Stanford strive for continued excellence. Just cannot reason with these people.

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CvegasEagle said...

Ned - Funny you mention that movie. I watched it over the weekend on my flight and thought immediately of BC football. More in the context of having an aggressive leader who's brash and isn't afraid of risking it all. We need Patton-like figure as our coach.

Geezer eagle said...

Patton's war fighting strategy was based on bold, aggressive offensive shock tactics. Going on the defense was a temporary expedient to be avoided when possible.
Dazoshit is the anti-Patton. Enough said.

Anonymous said...

Patton had many of the same traits Dazzler had now.

They should have set the win total at 8 this season. He would have won 8.

Told you suckers his approach to the FSU game would speak volumes. It did.

Geezer eagle said...

Knucklehead, please elaborate on your Patton-Dazoshit comparison. I can't wait to hear your explanation.

Napolean Bonaparte said...

"Ever to Excel" will continue to mean "Dumb And Proud Of It" until they change the leadership of the school. They are oblivious to the sentiments expressed on all of these blogs. They will only listen to serious donors. Daz will likely to be extended.

janebc said...

Mod-Maybe you are right about the Jesuits. But neither the Augustinian priests at Villanova nor the Holy Cross fathers at Notre Dame got the same memo. And then again, the Jesuits at Gonzaga seem supportive of the hoops tradition, though I hear Leahy allowed Marquette b-ball to languish during his tenure there- no big surprise. But all of those considerations aside, I am astounded at how little economic sense it makes to refuse to cut loose an incompetent making what -$ 2.7? And all the attendant losses I mentioned above, like TV exposure, that go with that decision in order to save $5 mill?? Not to mention good will, alumni returning to campus, etc Are they really that arrogant?

janebc said...

I think the answer to my own question is yes-they are that arrogant.

Edward Griffith said...

PATTON AND TOM COUGHLIN a good comparison . Two genius tacticians and inspirational leaders.
IF Tom was nearing the end of a long career at BC he would rank as a top ten college coach
of all time. Twenty plus top 20 finishes and near half top 10. Que Sera

Anonymous said...

Big fucking mouths.

bceagle91 said...

Big mouths indeed. But Patton did a hell of a lot better job of backing up his talk with action. Daz has been a fount of b.s.

Lenny Sienko said...

NEDofSavinHill: There you go again...disparaging the single wing. The single wing was a highly sophisticated offensive system, which could utilize the forward pass in many ways similar to today's "Air Raid".

Modern teams probably couldn't run the single wing because they don't have a center with the skills needed to direct snap the ball to more than one back. They also don't have quarterbacks who can block.

Current restrictions on movement in the backfield before the snap were to slow down the speed and power of moving box, used by a nameless institution in Indiana.

I well remember watching the last major college to use the single wing--Princeton--in the early 60's and rooting for the "Tigers" with their striped sleeves and unique formation.

If only DAZ could understand and use the nuances of the single wing?

DAZ's offense is more aptly characterized as "Thud & Blunder"...not even up to the "Three Yards and a Cloud of Dust" standards of Woody Hayes.

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brooklyneagle65 said...

For Big Jack: The Christkindlmaerkte in Vienna (Wien) are fantastic. (Lived there for ten years.) Enjoy! Meanwhile, I stand with you and others here in our revolt against the mismanagement of our football team. Kicking the can down the road once again does not do it for me. I'm too old to resign myself to hopes about what might come to pass in years well into the future.

Anonymous said...

Yeah Mod. How did Rutgers do this season?

Cannot wait until your two friends Mouse and Day are running the program here.

You are a typical critic non producer who gets a tingle quoting and denigrating.

Good recap though. Shows you type well but cannot think critically.




Anonymous said...

. . . nobody of merit is going to answer all the questions you have. Silly fucker. Nobody gives a shit that you cannot think beyond your own ass.

JBQ said...

The former head of the board of trustees ran a nation wide construction company (Sutton Construction) which ranked in the top 200 on Forbes. Just how did he approve the three year extension broached by Brad B? The team under Andre Williams who failed in the pros was 7-6 for Daz's first year. There had to be some "juggling of the books".---- Does Leahy even know how to balance a checkbook. I met him once upon a time at a function and have a return letter from him in hand. This has to be a joke.---Maybe Matt can take his 150 million extension (100 million guaranteed) and buy Alumni Stadium and charge Leahy and his Liberation Theology mentality fellow Jesuits admission. Maybe there's a way to have the reservoir overflow and flood Leahy's office. He has to go and as quickly as possible. Almost if not all Jesuit universities have lay presidents. Gonzaga has been very successful. Georgetown has had mixed results.----The "Mouse" is now seen for what Leahy designed him for. He is a flunkie for the progressive agenda. I have two emails from him which prove it.---Now, you know why AB is allowed to look stupid. Compare that to the travails at the French School and the competition between Book and Wimbush. In psychological terms, it is called "delayed progressive reaction". Leahy still thinks that it is 1968.

John said...

Would you rather tell your grandkids you were fighting with Georgie Patton, or shoveling shit in Louisiana? That's where I got my nickname for the Bowl in Shreveport - The Shoveling Shit in Louisiana Bowl.

BJK

John said...

Thanks very much, brooklyneagle. Vienna is indeed one of our stops.

knucklehead said...

. . . Mod Bowl.

John said...

John (from my phone) is BJK. 🙂

John said...

We'll end up in the Military Bowl in Annapolis, and Temple will beat Addazio with a still hobbled Dillon.

They should hold him out until Spring or even August while he rehabs his ankle an recovers.

Georgia Eagle - I had a "chronic ankle" coming out of college. 3 years of running around in Army (boonie [boondocks] and Corcoran Jump) Boots strengthened my ankle support.

An ankle injury can take a long time.

BJK

Joseph said...

He is a flunkie for the progressive agenda.

This sure is a football comment.

janebc said...

Daz is certainly no Patton, but more resembles one of those WW I generals who mindlessly repeated the same senseless tactic of sending waves of troops out of the trenches and across no man's land again and again and again- achieving no tactical gain in the process. Pound the Rock and then throw a third down pass short of the markers.
BJK- I am envious; have a marvelous time!

Edward Griffith said...

DAZZO-Shit is tied for 12th on list of seventeen head coaches and two that he ranks
above are Dan Henning and SPAZZO. FIRE THE LOSER DO it "FOR BOSTON"
Satis Dixit (ENOUGH SAID)
FIRST STUMBLE FOR COAC MAC and the KIDS

Geezer eagle said...

Ms Jane knows her military history. I'm impressed.

dixieagle said...

GE - Jane is a most impressive lady. I wouldn't want to face her in court. I would like to see her argue her case face to face with Fr. Leahy, however. ;)

eagle79er said...

Another statistic. AP top 25 finishes since 1978:

Ed Chlebek: 0 in 3 years. 0%
Jack Bicknell: 3 in 10 years. 30%
Tom Coughlin: 2 in 3 years. 67%
Dan Henning: 1 in 3 years. 33%
Tom O'Brien: 4 in 10 years. 40%
Jeff Jagodzinski: 1 in 2 years. 50%
Frank Spaziani: 0 in 4 years. 0%
Steve Addazio: 0 in 6 years. 0%

JBQ said...

Just think, if BC loses to Boise State, the Dazzler's winning percentage of .500 will fall below that of Moody Sarno who is now also at .500 and who never played Howard or Wagner.

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